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$5 Error Star Note Question

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 Posted 11/11/2017  01:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bkellog1 to your friends list
Thank you for the welcome! Wouldn't this still be considered an error note regardless of how the ink got on the paper?
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 Posted 11/11/2017  04:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Michael Lueders to your friends list
Following with interest. I'm a total beginner on US currency and I read up on the offset printing error. To me the $5 is similar to the verified offset $1, but that may just be my inexperience showing.

As I regularly get notes from my bank to search I am trying to understand the difference between the 2 notes, and why you would not consider the $5 to be equivalent as an error. I'd hate to think I could be passing up potentially valuable currency to add to my growing collection of Star notes.
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 Posted 11/11/2017  04:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Michael Lueders to your friends list
John1 is oldcurrencyvalues.com the only pricing resource that is available for valuing notes? Also how accurate is it to Fair market value? With US coins I use Numismedia and it is a great resource.

Thank you.
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 Posted 11/11/2017  05:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list
You can also use ebay sold values. Don't know how accurate it is,sorry.
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 Posted 11/11/2017  05:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lettow to your friends list
PVC damage can cause this effect. What type of holder is it kept in?
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 Posted 11/11/2017  09:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bkellog1 to your friends list
See below pic for the holder I purchased this in. doesn't make sense to me a holder could cause a back to front ink transfer.


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 Posted 11/11/2017  10:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Michael Lueders to your friends list
Thank you John1
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 Posted 11/11/2017  9:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bkellog1 to your friends list
See below for another graded error that is very similar to my star note. Anyone else chime in?


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 Posted 11/12/2017  4:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Sorry, afraid I don't quite understand what you're asking.
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 Posted 11/12/2017  7:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Buddy to your friends list
bkellog1 - you haven't shown the backs of either of the graded notes. Do they, like your $5 note, have the offset error on both sides? I would have thought the odds of that would be astronomical. Perhaps not.

I sincerely hope it is an offset printing error because I think it's cool that you bought it for the star and got yourself a bonus along the way.

I'm beginning to think the only way to know for sure is to examine the ink with a microscope.

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 Posted 11/12/2017  8:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bkellog1 to your friends list
What I'm asking is the graded offset examples I have shown look very similar to the $5 star note in that there appears to be ink from the back on the front of this $5 star. Comparing the graded examples to the $5 star, how then can you say the $5 isn't an offset error? What is different from the $5 star to the graded examples? This is what I don't get.

To answer your question about the back, no, the graded examples dont have any offset on the back.
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 Posted 11/12/2017  10:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Buddy to your friends list

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Comparing the graded examples to the $5 star, how then can you say the $5 isn't an offset error?


I can't and I didn't. My first thought when I first saw it was that it was set in a stack of still damp sheets but then I did some checking and changed my mind. It is the serial number that has me confused. I don't think that the back of the note has an offset image. It could; I just can't figure out how that could happen.

I wish I could confirm that it was an error, but I've never seen one in person. It's a hard thing to be sure about when you've only seen pictures.
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 Posted 11/14/2017  1:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lettow to your friends list
See below pic for the holder I purchased this in. doesn't make sense to me a holder could cause a back to front ink transfer.

A PVC holder will leach into the note causing the paper to become transparent. The holder you show in the picture looks like the old vinyl type holders that contain PVC.
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 Posted 11/15/2017  01:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Michael Lueders to your friends list
bkellog, The older plasticized holders for notes and coins react with the currency. In the case of notes what lettow said, in the coins it can cause toning.
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