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Pillar of the Community
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Roman Republic Semis Saturn Right / Prow Crawford 56/3 211-206 BC 28mm 16.3g  |
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Belgium
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A really beautiful coin ,David , not often seen in this quality . AR Victoriatus obv : laureate head of Jupiter right , border of dots rev : Victoria right crowning a trophy , in exergue : ROMA , line border . Ref : Cr53/1 , 211 BC Mint : Rome , 17 mm , 3.46 gr , 12 h Number of dies : obv : 400 , rev : 500 . Crawford divides these anonymous victoriati in 14 separate issues ,the features to distinguish the types are the hear of Jupiter and the features of the trophy .Each of the 14 issues can be divided in one or more groups .   |
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Here is a Greek Drachm of Ptolemy IV. The lambda between the eagle's wings signifies year 11 of Philopator's reign, or 211 BC. I have it attributed as SNG COP 222 and Svoronus 1167.   "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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Russian Federation
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Before any 220s BC coins are posted, I guess I might as well post this piece...   Taurica, Pantikapaion. Anokhin 145, ca. 220-210 BC. Obverse: head of bearded satyr in ivy wreath right. Reverse: bow and arrow right, ΠΑΝΤΙ below. |
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Belgium
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My last Roman coin for the decade 230-221 . AR quadrigatus , didrachm : obv :Laureate janiform head of the Dioscuri . rev : Jupiter in quadriga right,driven by Victoria . Jupiter holds sceptre in left hand and hurls thunderbolt with right hand, in exergue : ROMA on tablet . Ref : Cr29/3 : Mint : uncertain , 225-214 BC , 18 mm , 5.6 gr , 3 h . Crawford has suggested that the janiform heads represent the Dioscuri , since Janus is usually a mature and bearded figure .albert  |
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Some great coins, but just a point of order... surely its the decade 229-220, a coin minted 230 would be included in the 230's therefore January's coin 220-210 is part of this decade?
Nearly all my coins have date ranges bigger than 10 years now so I am wondering how we are going to progress but thanks to those who have been carrying this thread... we have zoomed through half a millennia without any significant hitches. A pat on the back for you :)
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Belgium
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Yes I think January's coin is in the good decade of 220-211 . IMO a decade BC begins in the year 10 , 20 .... , the last decade before the bird of Christ begins in the year 10 and ends in the year 1 , because there is no year 0 .After the bird , it begins in the year 1 to 10 , like the third milenniun began in 2001 and not 2000 .
THe next decade will begin in 230 to 221 BC and there is a real problem with Roman coins , there are very scarce and for the period 250/225 I think there are no coins .
For Greek coins , I think it is better to work with periods of at least 25 years and still then,we will have problems .Maybe working with half centuries ( 50 years) over 3 or 4 days ? albert
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Belgium
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How shall we do now to continue, David ? I have for the Roman republic an aes formatum , a premonetary coin dated 6/3 century BC . albert
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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It's tricky we are wanting a coin that dates 230-221 BC period. The closest I have is a coin minted 250-175 BC
Has anyone anything that starts in the correct decade? (even if it runs on for a while too long) and do many coins exist that start in the correct decade?
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United States
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Has anyone anything that starts in the correct decade? Nope sorry. I've got 216 to 207 BC and 277 to 239 BC. I don't think that either of these helps push us back.  "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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Pillar of the Community
Russian Federation
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I think one of my Pantikapaion coins might be Anokhin 141 (ca. 230-220 BC). Or it could be Anokhin 139 (ca. 240-230 BC).
I'll post it in the morning, and you can try to figure out if it's one or the other.
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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Difficulty digging that coin out?
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Difficulty digging that coin out? Sadly, no - either my email got stuck in the ether again, or I just plain forgot. Probably the latter. I'll check if the photos are still on my phone; I might be able to post them if they are (but of course I'm still not certain about the attribution). |
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This Greco-Bactrian 'double unit' (24mm, 12.30gm) of Euthydemos I dates from 230/220 (i.e. sometime is the 220s) to 200 BC. The bearded fellow is believed to be Herakles. Bopearachchi Serie 17A; BMC India 3, p. 5, 15-17.  Edited by Kushanshah
04/11/2018 03:04 am
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I am happy enough with that to move back to 240-230, It's certainly a fab coin.
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