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Thinking Of Starting A Silver 3 Cent Collection

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 Posted 01/25/2018  2:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
It's an ambitious undertaking - keep us posted if you get into it!
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 Posted 01/25/2018  2:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add einstem to your friends list
Thanks all.

And the " Shield nickel" set looks very "doable" as well, and I love the design. And none seem to be crazy/expensive. I can definitely do a date set, and maybe even a type set (excluding proofs of course).

Also, I do like the idea of a full "type set" of all the coins, cherry picking a nice one for each type. Would be a great project to learn about each type of coin in detail.

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 Posted 01/25/2018  2:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list
Consider collecting the Trimes from 1851 through 1862 as you could do this in XF for about $100 a coin. If you did this set in orginal attractive toned coins, it would be challenging and rewarding upon completion.
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 Posted 01/25/2018  3:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list

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The coins in the range of 1863 through 1873 are definitely more expensive, so I may need to drop down to "F" or VG" to make them more affordable, or go with one with "details" or "cleaned".

Problem is the guide may show them as being more affordable, but they are practically nonexistant. You can find proofs, Mint state, and the occasional AU, but lower grade coins are rarely encountered. Especially the very low grades.

Another good choice for a classic set are capped bust Half Dimes. Only 9 coins, no rare dates, and the prices are reasonable.
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 Posted 01/25/2018  4:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list
I've been trying to put together a nice F-15 to EF-45 set of Liberty Head Nickels . They are all affordable except for 1885 ,1886 and 1912-S which are the only 3 coins I'm missing . Love this series , the main idea is to obtain them with Full Liberty as most of mine are .
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 Posted 01/25/2018  7:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Debrajc to your friends list
I gave some thought to putting together a classic set of circulation strikes 20 cent pieces.
There are only 4. I may do that someday.
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 Posted 01/25/2018  8:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list
If you love the look of the TINY 3CS, have fun collecting them. But they are far from an easy set to assemble. Especially with decent eye appeal. Forgetting the grade, they are tough to find well struck and without Die Deterioration.

I would very strongly recommend you consider a type set.
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 Posted 01/26/2018  10:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list
For me such a set of 3 Cent coins would be just to difficult. Although the prices are not that high, the amount of them available is just not there.
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 Posted 01/26/2018  10:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chesterb to your friends list
Totally agree with moxking. Strike inconsistencies, tiny details, etc. etc.
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 Posted 01/26/2018  11:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Collects82 to your friends list
I second considering Capped Bust Half Dimes.
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 Posted 01/27/2018  07:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lcutler to your friends list
You mentioned Shield nickels, did you check the price of the 1880? Ouch! 2 cent pieces are another option for a doable set.
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 Posted 01/27/2018  08:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CLS12 to your friends list
What about starting a 7070 or type set? This would expose you to the classics and give you fullness filling of completing a set and then from there you might pinpoint something you really like to start a full set of?
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 Posted 01/27/2018  11:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BStrauss3 to your friends list
I have built a collection of 3CS in XF over about 3 years (five elapsed now). You are correct, 1851-1862 are easy to find, but take your time and pick nice ones (there are a lot of really ugly 3CS out there).

1863->1872 are basically impossible.

For both business strikes and proofs, mintages are very small and very, very few coins have survived. In 1874 the mint melted vast quantities of obsolete coins. Even into the 1910-1920 period large numbers of 3cs were turned into the treasury and melted.

You also need to read between the lines of the census reports at the TPGs.

For example, 1863
Mintage: 21,000
Certified NGC: 78, lowest grade AU55
Certified PCGS: 105, lowest grade XF40, 10 in AU

PCGS survival estimate
All grades: 500
60 or better: 200
65 or better: 100

XF Auction Sales: None


Or 1871
Mintage: 3,400
Certified NGC: 141, lowest grade VF (q=3), 1 XF40, 3 XF45
Certified PCGS: 124, lowest grade VsF (q=3), 1 XF40, 4 XF45s

PCGS survival estimate
All grades: 800
60 or better: 250
65 or better: 125

XF Auction Sales:
XF40, NGC, 2011, $1,093 (Heritage Auction)
XF45, NGC, 2016 & 2013, $940 (Heritage Auctions)


Price guide XF40 - 690, XF45 - 700 --- bunk


The point being, when they tell you that the 1863 is worth $525 in XF, that's pure fiction. It doesn't exist. It's never been sold at auction. PERIOD.


In the last five years, a dealer I know has bought over the counter, certified and sold four 1871s in XF (one was details). I was a good customer, with cash, and I know I didn't pay $700...

PS: Subtract those coins from the census and you'll see what existed when I started out...



So figure you are settling in for a long slog to finish the set.


Can it be done? Sure. Just time (lots) and money (lots).


To get to where I am, I've filled a couple of the holes with impaired proofs, which I may never upgrade... and I'm happy to have it.

Besides, there is something fun in owning a coin described as

1872 3CS PR50 NGC. NGC Census: (1/201). PCGS Population: (0/286). Mintage 950. (Registry values: N1) (NGC ID# 27CH, PCGS# 3723)


i.e. 1 at this grade, 201 higher (they don't quote the 0 lower )



References:

https://www.NGCcoin.com/coin-explor...coinid-13682

http://www.PCGScoinfacts.com/Coin/Detail/3682

https://www.PCGS.com/pop/detail.aspx?c=77&p=MS&t=5

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01/27/2018 11:55 am
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 Posted 01/29/2018  01:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jpsned to your friends list
It's certainly a unique idea. I've never heard of someone contemplating a trime collection. Way cool!
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 Posted 01/29/2018  08:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gary to your friends list
I have a date set with a mixture of MS and proof. The 63-73 are proofs. Here is a trueview from PCGS of one of them.

If you don't mind proofs instead of MS the set is doable a lot cheaper.



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