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Cash..... Reports Of Its Death Are Greatly Exaggerated?

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 Posted 11/25/2018  11:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oriole to your friends list
@just_carl, yes, you do get cash back, but the merchants have to pay a few % back to the CC company. Perhaps we pay more, or perhaps the merchant absorbs it.

So we have to play the game or we are losers, or maybe just not as much as if we used cash.

I for one have just resigned myself to playing the game and get my cash back.
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 Posted 11/26/2018  04:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fistfulladirt to your friends list
For me, it's worth losing money but satifsfied in that my every spending habit is not tracked. It's none of their business. You can refuse the mark. My cell phone is also not on my person every minute of the day.
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 Posted 11/26/2018  10:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list
A very unfortunate problem with using a credit or debit card is there is that record somewhere of what you purchased. Remember this when you buy coins, stamps, guns. knives, ammunition, jewelry, or any item of value to others. I worry about this with guns. By me there is this constant attempt to confiscate guns from every one and a record somewhere of you having one is possibly all they need. And with coins, who knows who has such information. With the internet having so many personal search web sites, people know longer can even hide where they live anymore.
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 Posted 11/26/2018  12:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ikeyPikey to your friends list

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... satifsfied in that my every spending habit is not tracked ...


Yes, but think of how handy all that data will be if you are ever unjustly accused of a crime, and need to prove that your were somewhere else?

Cheers,

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 Posted 11/26/2018  2:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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... satifsfied in that my every spending habit is not tracked.
But then there are cameras... Think Minority Report.


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Yes, but think of how handy all that data will be if you are ever unjustly accused of a crime, and need to prove that your were somewhere else?
Yup, the upshot. Embrace it.
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 Posted 11/27/2018  12:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Andrew99 to your friends list
I suspect those of you predicting the demise of cash do not have children or at least do not have them in the home any longer. Between tutors, babysitters, school club nonsense as well as various and sundry things they have to buy in school, we cannot manage without having several hundred in cash at all times, mostly in fives and tens.
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 Posted 11/27/2018  3:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list
I have a ten year old. I also have local nieces and nephews ranging nine to 16.

Sorry to disappoint, but cash is the exception. To be sure, cash is still needed, but needed less and less it seems.

Almost everything school related can be paid online and electronically now, even fundraisers (which kills my I have no cash excuse).

While the kids gladly accept cash for birthdays and holidays (free money is free money and is still what the grandparents do best), they still need the parents to deposit it so they can use online for their purchases. Everyone is happier getting/giving gift cards and to be honest, it is so much easier.

Oh, and the babysitter takes Venmo.
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 Posted 11/28/2018  01:59 am  Show Profile   Check spru's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add spru to your friends list

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Everyone is happier getting/giving gift cards and to be honest, it is so much easier.


I guess, if you are a child. If someone wishes to give me cash as a gift, give me the cash. Gift cards for specific places are a hindrance (spawned a new business, in fact) and others have expiration dates and fees out of my control.


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Oh, and the babysitter takes Venmo.


Venmo seems like PayPal trying to hook up with Facebook (and it did). I have my reservations, but we'll see. I enjoy PayPal, but have no need to interweave my social life and my financial accounts within a single digital construct. On the surface, it seems like a very bad idea.

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 Posted 11/28/2018  10:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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I guess, if you are a child.
That is to my point. The younger people are embracing the digital age full force. Many will grow up with very little exposure to cash.

In the next generation or two those kids will look at cash like today's kids look at window cranks and stick shifts... "What is that?"
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 Posted 11/28/2018  1:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list

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But then there are cameras... Think Minority Report.

I was thinking more like "Enemy of the State".


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Everyone is happier getting/giving gift cards and to be honest, it is so much easier.

When it comes down to that point why bother. I give you a $20 gift card. You give me a $20 gift card. We've both spent $20 and have a gift card we could have just bought for ourselves or just used the $20 at the place the gift card was for. The only advantage is they can often be regifted easily. Now you've given two $20 gifts and you are only out $20 etc.
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 Posted 11/28/2018  1:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list
I am not talking about gifts between the adults. This is about what we get our children and grandchildren. I should have been more specific.

For what it is worth, we do not do gifts between all grownups. We all pull one name and buy one gift. We did this to avoid what it was becoming, a gift card swap.

Now we just have to buy one nice gift for one person. The rest of our time and money is spent trying to figure what to get the kids (spoiler alert: gift cards they can use online).
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 Posted 11/28/2018  1:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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I was thinking more like "Enemy of the State".
Good reference for where we are. I was giving an example of where we are going.
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 Posted 11/28/2018  1:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list
With no cash, tipping becomes a problem. At restaurants I pay the bill with my credit card but if the receipt says tip, I put nothing. I then give the waiter or waitress a tip in cash. I give my mailman cash for Christmas. Any where a tip should be given I use only cash. There are many places where tipping is not only normal but necessary. So without cash, so many things like this will have to change.
So now what do you do for those girls selling Girl Scout cookies. Use a credit card?
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 Posted 11/28/2018  1:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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With no cash, tipping becomes a problem. At restaurants I pay the bill with my credit card but if the receipt says tip, I put nothing. I then give the waiter or waitress a tip in cash.
I always put the tip on the receipt.
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 Posted 11/28/2018  3:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jeffbuckes to your friends list
I always tip in cash. Here's why:

I worked in food retail on and off over the years - FOH and BOH. In my experience, at the end of each shift, the waiter cashes out the tips and goes home. Then, once a month, the owner gets a bill from the credit card processor with a merchant service fee (5 or 6%) on all credit card sales including the tips. So, the tips go in the waiters' pockets (right where they belong), but the owner has to pay a fee on the tips. That's thousands of dollars a year in fees on tips to the staff. Some restaurants try to deduct the fee from the waiters' paychecks but that's illegal in a lot of places. And some restaurants (like Lexington Candy Shop in NYC) don't allow credit card tipping.

So, I definitely understand why the restaurants don't like credit card tipping - it's very expensive and doesn't bulk out the bottom line. And most restaurants have such slim margins that a few thousand bucks a year can make or break a small business. I'm not talking about Olive Garden (I don't care about them), I'm talking about the corner pizza shop etc.

If the banks ever stop charging fees on tips (an easy solution) then I might change my mind. Till then, I tip in cash whenever I can.

(BTW: I won't get into the tax implications of cash tips, or the argument that many people tip more when paying by credit card etc. That's beyond the scope of this discussion I think.)
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