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Why No Love For The Peace Dollar?

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 Posted 05/15/2018  5:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cjartist to your friends list
Those are some incredible toned examples. I looked for a while but could only see the artificially toned stuff. Blech

For me the milk spots on many Peace dollars are a big turnoff, but otherwise I am a fan of the design and think it's a very underrated coin design.

Here's my preciousss. :)
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 Posted 05/15/2018  6:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list
While I have some Peace dollars, I never seriously was after the complete set. As has been said - flat design and poorly struck. They always just looked too flat to me.

Here is a fascinating read on how the Peace dollar design was almost something different.
http://www.moonlightmint.com/blog_19.htm

The article also tells of an amazing ebay find by Daniel Carr and how he used it to make some overstrikes of what could have been. I have one of the fantasy overstirke 1917s and have to admit it is my favorite of my Peace dollars b/c of the high relief as opposed to any original coins.
Its better in hand.

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 Posted 05/15/2018  7:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 999fine to your friends list
Lovely '21!
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 Posted 05/15/2018  9:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add LibertyEagle20 to your friends list
Coinjem - good idea pursuing a Peace dollar set, I think they are a nice sleeper series. If you are getting those for $20 or so it's probably not a bad deal but I would highly suggest looking for original surface coins vs ones that have been cleaned. I find those tiny scratches distracting and you can buy BU of the common years for under $30. Just a suggestion, as I think you will be happier in the long run going that route. Good luck with the set!
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 Posted 05/16/2018  1:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add two_tonevf35 to your friends list
The same reason some prefer strawberry over chocolate - the mystery of preferences of the senses. That is about as subjective as one can get, however, there may be some that can point out objective reasons why the eye appeal is not there for the Peace dollar vs other designs.
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 Posted 05/17/2018  06:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinjem to your friends list
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Coinjem - good idea pursuing a Peace dollar set, I think they are a nice sleeper series. If you are getting those for $20 or so it's probably not a bad deal but I would highly suggest looking for original surface coins vs ones that have been cleaned. I find those tiny scratches distracting and you can buy BU of the common years for under $30. Just a suggestion, as I think you will be happier in the long run going that route. Good luck with the set!


Thanks for that suggestion. I will take that into consideration. I am not sure if I can tell the difference between a cleaned coin and "original surface" coins. I could ask the coin shop(s) dealer and hope they know, but a few I've bought from ebay and those sellers may not relate if the coin has been cleaned in their item description. My amateurish eyes may not be able to tell from the pictures of the coin posted on ebay.

The coin pics I posted above do show a lot more defects compared to how they look in hand.

Is there a thread that compares cleaned coins to original finish? What does one look for to tell the difference?
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 Posted 05/17/2018  11:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Andrew99 to your friends list
You should go to a coin show and find dealers that will educate you. We all have cleaned coins as well as original coins. If you see a few verified examples, you'll be able to tell. On cleaned coins, the color is off, there are hairlines in the fields, the luster may be muted. Even coins that were dipped once will not tone naturally and will be recognizable as cleaned once they start to retone.
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 Posted 05/18/2018  3:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add LibertyEagle20 to your friends list
Coinjem here is a recent post to demonstrate how hard it is to identify a lightly cleaned coin.

http://goccf.com/t/319043

I struggle knowing if small scratches are from normal circulation or cleaning. The 1934 you posted is a good example of an easily identifiable cleaned coin. IMO that is pretty obviously cleaned due to the very high number of scratches. Again this post is not meant to discourage you though as you should collect what you like. I just don't want to see you get taken advantage of and sold a cleaned coin at a high price! To make matters worse, it's extremely tough to tell if a coin is cleaned by looking at online pictures alone. Some folks opt to buy coins graded by NGC,PCGS, ANACS to reduce the risk of a cleaned coin. The graders are human too though and they even make mistakes!
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 Posted 07/22/2018  5:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 999fine to your friends list
Today I freed a 1934S from an ICG AU58 slab. No way I could justify this being a 58. 55 at best, likely 53. I've been working on a mylar flip collection. While I have the easy ones in better TPG slabs, the slabs don't do much for me in grades MS 65 and lower, and for me, much lower is forcast.

So here's some pics (I hope)


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In the slab

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Slab cracked

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Coin freed and in flip

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With its new friends, LR coin

Best I can do with my phone camera and side window light

..............

Edit: I see I can do with much smaller images.
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 Posted 07/23/2018  12:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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Very nice!
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 Posted 07/24/2018  2:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 999fine to your friends list
I freed 1921 Peace to my flip collection. Originally an NGC XF 45.


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Apologies for the 2 sideways images. I have tried to rotate in my computer and repost but to no avail. Big learning curve here.
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 Posted 07/24/2018  2:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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I freed 1921 Peace to my flip collection. Originally an NGC XF 45.
Another nice addition!
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 Posted 07/25/2018  10:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list

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Is there a thread that compares cleaned coins to original finish? What does one look for to tell the difference?

Personal opinion is that it really isn't that useful to see computer images of different coins and try and determine from them what is cleaned and what isn't won't be real helpful. Sure if a coin is OBVIOUSLY harshly cleaned your going to be able to tell, but if the cleaning is more subtle computer images may not help you at all. Especially when you consider the images are probably taken under different resolutions, with different cameras, different lighting and then viewed on a computer screen each of which in my opinion renders images and colors slightly differently. And then there is the surfaces of the coins themselves which also tend to image differently. The only way to learn cleaned from original is the same way as learning grading, but examining a very large number of coins in person. Coin shows can be good for that, but you also have to consider that the lighting at coin shows is typically very different than what you have at home. A coin that looks great at the show may not be as impressive once you get it home. So that is another skill you have to learn, how to adjust for local lighting.
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 Posted 07/25/2018  1:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thq to your friends list
I just picked up an MS65 1925 for $115. Slight gold tone, solid strike, incredible cartwheel luster.

It's a mine run coin, with PCGS population 8000 plus, so not worth photographing to post here. But such beauty for the price.
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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