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Need Help Identifying This 1983 Penny Error Or Damage . Copper Edge Intact

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 Posted 05/10/2018  10:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Artistic dog to your friends list
Nice try though not a Dryer Coin all the copper would be smashed off or rolled over and this coin measures perfectly on a micrometer to exact size and weight no outer damaged edges ..didnt you read anything ? This coin is thinner than normal though
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 Posted 05/10/2018  10:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Artistic dog to your friends list
Also there is no detail on the coin it looks as if it was all rubbed off from wear ... The zinc would be exposed on oiter edges of coin like all other Dryer Coins I have seen this on is exactly perfectly sized aaaand you can still see the outer rim under the extra zinc ..see photos I tried to show a comparable penny but the forum wants cropped pics and etc makes it real difficult to use this forum as half the time it doesn't work ... Again , there is no outer rim damage and the micrometer measures exactly with any other penny except a dryer penny which is smaller in diameter ..next
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 Posted 05/10/2018  10:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Artistic dog to your friends list
It appears it was in a tube when pressed ..all copper is still on the coin its been worn off in some spots from circulation , I acquired it at a Duncan donuts and even our local dealers are stumped , as I suggested could it be a Dryer Coin and all rejected that idea as it's measurements are dead on and there is no rolling over of the metals off the edge because the edge is still intact under the extra zinc and copper ...I thought pressed dead center or something caused this at a shop or similar... Can you figure it out , we are stumped and it doesn't match our collection of Dryer Coins
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 Posted 05/10/2018  11:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mrzllewellyn to your friends list
Dryer Coin is my guess to
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 Posted 05/10/2018  11:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NewMember to your friends list
The forums image optimizer works great as well as the upload function. Obviously you can read so it may be an issue with your comprehension skills and/or your ability to follow directions.

If I'm not mistaken, you said it looks as though the detail was rubbed off from circulation and it appears to have been pressed through a tube.. So, maybe it was pressed through a tube and the detail has been worn off with circulation..
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 Posted 05/10/2018  11:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverDollar2017 to your friends list
Looks like PMD.


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makes it real difficult to use this forum as half the time it doesn't work


Forum works fine for me. Maybe your computer is having a problem?

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 Posted 05/10/2018  12:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list
Artistic dog,

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didnt you read anything ?
with that attitude I will only give you one more thought and will no longer respond to your posts. It is some kind of PMD, like a bezel applied to it...just a thought. Good luck with your search
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 Posted 05/10/2018  12:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chafemasterj to your friends list
Welcome to the Forum!!

Mysteries abound.

That first picture really shows what you're talking about. How strange. I'm going to go with PMD of some sort. I can't picture a situation where it came from the mint like that.

I'm a novice so take my opinion with a grain of salt.
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 Posted 05/10/2018  4:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
If it is heavier than normal, then it might be something on the coin? (if more than 3.11 grams)
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 Posted 05/10/2018  4:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Crazyb0 to your friends list
AD, I have wondered about similar coins I have found CRHing. The common theory of course is a Dryer Coin, but I too have disagreed and lost my lunch with this crowd before in disagreements. Here's some that I have found, the edge with rim is affected and curled over. My theory to how this may happen is in the last diagram...go figure. It's not settled exactly why tho.
Need-Help-Identifying-This-1983-Penny-Error-Or-Damage-.-Copper-Edge-Intact
Need-Help-Identifying-This-1983-Penny-Error-Or-Damage-.-Copper-Edge-Intact

BTW, This diagram is patterned after the small sorter at the second dump bank to refuse to take my coins anymore after thre amounts I dumped kept breaking their machine. These are areas that coins "disappeared" into, ya know those not counted ones?


Final thought: whatever did this did wrap the plating back exposing the core, it's amazing to me the edge rim is still intact, must have been adhered well in the plating process!
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 Posted 05/10/2018  4:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NewMember to your friends list
I see where you're at Crazy but his is different. See how his copper has been disconnected at the very edge of the rim then rolled, pushed or smooshed inwards. See how it's been done in increments, the straight line segments..
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 Posted 05/10/2018  4:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Occirats to your friends list
maybe the rim was just rolled in a dryer.....guess it depends on the dryer...maybe it was a washer and not a dryer..
I understand there are more modern washer/dryers that can do the unknown, may take 20-30 years to discover if ever.maybe even another type of machinery......they didn't just know what caused Dryer Coins I assume they had to find them in dryers to make the determination...

You can't say it's NOT a Dryer Coin..

my 2 cents is that it very well could be something of the sorts..until some one knows different
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 Posted 05/10/2018  5:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list
It's a Dryer Coin (Post Strike Damage), period! Don't even try to argue and cause trouble here! We're trying to help you out and your attitude isn't very good. Please be nice and actually listen to us! Not a good way to start out. You're treating our good members like crap and are not accepting any information we give you. I'm done and I'm not going to tolerate this type of attitude, especially towards our good members that have been on here for years!
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 Posted 05/10/2018  7:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DrDon to your friends list
The first question you should ask is " Did this happen somewhere in the minting process or after?" This happened AFTER. How did it happen matters little. Your coin is damaged.Period. The End

nuff said.
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