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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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Thanks for all the info. Can someone provide info about why the two cases are different and if these were originally the same set?
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Moderator
 Canada
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I suspect the cases were supplied by a third party. Demand for the 1967 specimen sets was very high in 1967, as well, "numismatic gold" was high in demand from the US, as the US Gold Reserve Act rules on owning gold were not relaxed until sometime around 1975. A LOT of these sets were shipped overseas and the US. The slight change in packaging was probably just the supplier trying to keep up with demand.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
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The cardboard box on the right appears to be from the red cased PL set. If the coat of arms embossed on the top of the black case matches the coat of arms on the cardboard box on the right you have something very interesting. Otherwise someone has switched the cardboard box.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning... -from PCGS website
Edited by DBM 05/27/2018 12:03 am
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Valued Member
Canada
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the coat of arms is different.... looks like maybe one set was issued through a province...?
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Valued Member
Canada
354 Posts |
My PL red set has the same cardboard box as the one on the left, with that same design as on the box printed on the red leather. Same latch as on the left too. I don't have pictures as it's put away, but it looks just like this one. https://www.coinsunlimited.ca/royal...ion-coin-set
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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who knows how many medallions, were switched out, I have the set on the right in the black box, and I am missing the gold coin.. But I would bet the coins were inter- mixed, and switched out at times, there is probably lots of franken-sets out there.
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
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Oops! I meant left in my earlier post. The coat of arms on the black case, the box on the left and the gold coin are the same. It is the official arms of Canada. The coat of arms on the left box appears on the red case as well as the silver medallion included in that set.It is a derivative of the official arms, used for centennial souvenirs, and somewhat similar to the crest on the red ensign which until a couple of years earlier was this country's flag.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning... -from PCGS website
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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Thanks for all the info on the boxes. Both of these sets belonged to my friend's Dad who ordered many things directly from the US and Canadian mint (as well as the Franklin Mint [oh well]). Quote: If the coat of arms embossed on the top of the black case matches the coat of arms on the cardboard box on the right you have something very interesting. Here is an update pic of the two sets showing the COA on the top of both is the same. The set on the right has the original paper sowing how to open the case included. 
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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The "Canadian Coat of arms " on the box on the left was used up until 1957 . The right is after wards. Why it is on the 1967 Confederation set .... 
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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Yes its dated 1967 right on it?
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
9866 Posts |
Quote: The "Canadian Coat of arms " on the box on the left was used up until 1957 . The right is after wards Not true, the coat of arms on the right box is the 1957 revision of the very similar 1923 version and remained in use until the last revision about twenty years ago. The one on the left is an escutcheon derived from the 1957 arms. Earle42, the cardboard box on the left is from a 1967 red case PL set.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning... -from PCGS website
Edited by DBM 06/03/2018 6:42 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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Thanks DBM. I am not sure how this happened as the friend of mine who owns them ordered them from the Canadian mint in 1967. These were his only two sets. Maybe at sometime he swapped boxes with another collector, or maybe the RCM made a mistake.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I don't think there was any consistent rhyme or reason how these sets were put together and what boxes there were in. Here is a red set in the original box (from a single source and I have no reason to believe the box was switched).  
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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Thanks for that post. I think this likely solves the mystery. I need to sell both sets for my friend. Am thinking here first then ebay.
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