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Does My 1885-CC (Morgan Dollar) Look OK?

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 Posted 07/27/2018  7:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thecoinguy1964 to your friends list
I see plenty wrong with this coin, not even a good fake, must be a older one. I've heard of coin stores having a good reputation, but never a pawn shop. I hope you get a refund, but I doubt a pawn shop would offer that, I imagine all sales are final.
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 Posted 07/27/2018  7:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jimbucks to your friends list

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I hope you get a refund, but I doubt a pawn shop would offer that, I imagine all sales are final.


I think it is illegal to sell a counterfeit coin, and illegal sales are not final. The OP may want to post pics of the other coin for the forum to check it out also, if one is fake, then others very well may be too.
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 Posted 07/27/2018  7:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add toddler81 to your friends list
Fake or not, I would not have paid $625 for it in that condition. As was linked above, they can be had in MS for the same or less money...
If you take it back, you may to prove it's the same one you bought from them. You shouldn't have any trouble getting your money back, though, as it is illegal to sell fake coins. The problem, as I just mentioned, is proving that you're returning the same one you took out of there...
Is there a reputable coin shop in your area? That dealer might be able to back you up its authenticity.
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 Posted 07/27/2018  7:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jpsned to your friends list
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 Posted 07/27/2018  7:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mark1959 to your friends list
That's a good one jpsned!
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 Posted 07/27/2018  8:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverDollar2017 to your friends list
It is clearly counterfeit.
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 Posted 07/27/2018  10:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SuperPoacher74 to your friends list
my thoughts exactly..
Also when side by side comparison it's a hair thinner than other Morgans..
Thanks for the feedback.
Not one of you said maybe so I'm taking it back..
Thanks again...
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 Posted 07/27/2018  10:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SuperPoacher74 to your friends list
Curious can you all tell me what the tells are for you?
What confirms it's a fake!
I want as much leverage as I can get.
Thanks
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 Posted 07/27/2018  11:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverDollar2017 to your friends list
The portrait appears off as well as the mintmark. The surfaces have a cast look, and the color is similar to artificial toning on counterfeits.
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 Posted 07/28/2018  12:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list

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I think it is illegal to sell a counterfeit coin, and illegal sales are not final.


They aren't final but there is a BIG kicker to it. If they deny the refund you have to prove that not only did you buy it there but that was the coin that they sold you. Shady places can simply say they would never sell that or you switched the item on them ect and about all you could do then would be take them to court but again you would have to try and prove something that in most cases you can't
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 Posted 07/28/2018  12:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list
Below is a genuine VAM 3 tilted left CC. On the OP coin the CC is tilted left and the date is in the correct position for the VAM 3, but as noted the surface has a cast look and the color is similar to artificial toning on counterfeits. The denticles also appear off. None of the genuine die cracks are visible on the OP coin. There is also a couple of die cracks in the eye area of a VAM 3 that can be checked that I am certian will not be on the OP coin.

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Genuine Coin
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 Posted 07/28/2018  10:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list
Hope you can get your money back.
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 Posted 07/28/2018  2:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jimbucks to your friends list
OP, why don't you post the other coin you bought from this Seller. We can let you know if it looks OK. It would be better to deal with the Seller just once more instead of twice.
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 Posted 07/28/2018  5:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jpsned to your friends list
What tells it for me with fake Morgans is the color. A real Morgan has a strong white aspect to it; a fake one is more greyish.
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 Posted 07/28/2018  6:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jpsned to your friends list

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That's a good one jpsned!


Thanks, Mark! It can come in handy on this site.
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