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1964 D Kennedy Half DDO-015? With Type 1 Broken Rays Reverse. Help Please.

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 Posted 09/14/2018  12:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim0815 to your friends list
Tunnioc, my apologies for not adding that close up of the D you can see that it is from Denver from the second pic.
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 Posted 09/14/2018  12:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tunnioc to your friends list
Sorry, I need more coffee
Nice DDO
Maybe you can find it here.
http://www.varietyvista.com/12%20Ke...201964-D.htm
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 Posted 09/14/2018  12:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim0815 to your friends list
The only one Variety Vista has as a close match is the DDO-015 but I do not believe this one is that. The die markers do not match and the DDO-015 has the type 2 reverse.
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 Posted 09/14/2018  12:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list
That a very nice Doubled Die Obverse. Very nice find and congratulations!
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 Posted 09/14/2018  12:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim0815 to your friends list
Thank you E&V! I just can't find anything on VV or Mr. Wexler's site to match it to. There is nothing out there. None of the die markers match up with anything. And, being a type 1 reverse makes it even harder for me to find anything.
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 Posted 09/14/2018  12:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
The issue with the sites is that they have found out a lot of doubled dies are not actually doubling on the die, but doubled hubs (Making many dies with the same doubling) making several dies with the same non die doubled examples. Some are even master die doubling. So they are trying to sort out what is a real doubled die, or Working doubled hub created dies or doubled master die doubled. So keep it safe for now until this is figured out.
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 Posted 09/14/2018  1:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim0815 to your friends list
I will definitely have this in the safe.
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 Posted 09/14/2018  2:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add atrox001 to your friends list
To refer to the reverse die variety for the 1964 Kennedy series, proof and BS, I would use the RDV-001 straight G and RDV-002 flared G. Yours is a RDV-001 straight G. If you look at the CONECA Master Listings for the 64D, http://varietyvista.com/Variety%20M...htm#_1964-D, you can see there are three listed RDV-001's, DDO-002, DDO-010, and DDR-012. When I compare your photos, I don't think your half matches the -002 or the -012, you have the DDO-010. Attached are some photos of some markers from the 64D DDO-010, stage C in my collection that can be seen in your photos. The die scratches right behind the eagles head, the die scratches around and below the nose, and the die scratches left of the first T in TRUST.
Larry Nienaber

1964-D-Kennedy-Half-DDO-015?-With-Type-1-Broken-Rays-Reverse.-Help-Please.
1964-D-Kennedy-Half-DDO-015?-With-Type-1-Broken-Rays-Reverse.-Help-Please.
1964-D-Kennedy-Half-DDO-015?-With-Type-1-Broken-Rays-Reverse.-Help-Please.
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09/14/2018 2:59 pm
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I think you hit the nail on the head. I just took new pics of the coin and the die scratch in front of the nose is a perfect match as well as the scratches running through the E in WE. I had went through the same Master list earlier and the one thing not mentioned was a separation spread in the curl of the 9. Could that be because it could be a different stage?
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For die scratches to be a match to me, I try to find at least three different areas to match up. If all three are a match, then I'm satisfied.
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 Posted 09/14/2018  3:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim0815 to your friends list
All three pics atrox posted match the scratches with mine perfectly. I have my answer! But now I have another question, I made the mistake of not posting the pics of the date and the 9 has a separation spread at the curl of the 9. That wasn't mentioned in the Master List, could it possibly be a different stage?
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 Posted 09/14/2018  3:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim0815 to your friends list
@atrox101, here are a few of the new pics to compare.
1964-D-Kennedy-Half-DDO-015?-With-Type-1-Broken-Rays-Reverse.-Help-Please.
1964-D-Kennedy-Half-DDO-015?-With-Type-1-Broken-Rays-Reverse.-Help-Please.
1964-D-Kennedy-Half-DDO-015?-With-Type-1-Broken-Rays-Reverse.-Help-Please.
1964-D-Kennedy-Half-DDO-015?-With-Type-1-Broken-Rays-Reverse.-Help-Please.
1964-D-Kennedy-Half-DDO-015?-With-Type-1-Broken-Rays-Reverse.-Help-Please.
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 Posted 09/14/2018  4:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim0815 to your friends list
Comparing the 9's the top pick is from the DDO-010 and the bottom pick is from a normal 1964 D Kennedy half.
1964-D-Kennedy-Half-DDO-015?-With-Type-1-Broken-Rays-Reverse.-Help-Please.
1964-D-Kennedy-Half-DDO-015?-With-Type-1-Broken-Rays-Reverse.-Help-Please.
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 Posted 09/14/2018  5:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add atrox001 to your friends list
If you look at the CONECA listing description for the 64D DDO-010 you will see that James Wiles shows "Master Die/Master Die". I think the doubling you see on the 9 of the date is from the master die.
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 Posted 09/14/2018  5:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim0815 to your friends list
atrox101, I virtually have no experience with Kennedy halves and that information is very helpful. As a matter of fact I'm pretty new at errors in general and I have learned a great deal from a lot of good people including yourself. Thank you.
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