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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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A venue is available but you have to have solid proof to get the listing removed. Just saying 'it's counterfeit' won't work.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Quote: Also, I just noticed that this is a 0-feedback seller, so I'd be especially wary. According to the listing, the seller has 36,000 feedback. I am not going to buy it, but it does not look obviously fake. The seller does call it uncirculated, which it is not of course.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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As long as it is no longer available, why bother worrying about it?
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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The lack of feedback alone would be enough to put me off, but I know that's not really the issue. In my case, a lack of knowledge about the subtleties of this series, the raw condition, and the washed out pics are enough reasons not to touch it.
Edited by Coinfrog 01/24/2019 11:19 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The pictures and 0 feedback would discourage me from considering purchasing this coin.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
3479 Posts |
a close up of the date area. The bottom example is a PCGS graded xf-40.  
Edited by MikeF 01/24/2019 12:15 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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Edited by MikeF 01/24/2019 1:44 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4469 Posts |
look at the lower stem of the Y on the OP coin. The lower stem lines up with the edge of the shield. On the PCGS MS64 the lower stem of Y is not close to lining up with the edge of the shield. The coin appears to be a counterfeit. PCGS MS64  OP coin 
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Great Observation, slider! The reverse seems to be unattributable. The first horizontal line of the shield is the only way to attribute the reverse dies. It depends on how far it extends beyond the first horizontal shield border to the left. But it's completely struck or rubbed out. Was this done intentionally?   This is a example of one of the obverse die varieties. 
Edited by MikeF 01/24/2019 4:07 pm
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Moderator
 United States
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Quote: According to the listing, the seller has 36,000 feedback. You are looking at the wrong listing. Look at the ended listing.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
3479 Posts |
What are your thoughts on this one, nss-52?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4233 Posts |
Tips of stars are missing left and right of the cap. That's enough for me. Why somebody thinks they're going to get a $1000+ coin for $300 off somebody who has never sold anything and has nothing else for sale is beyond me. Greed, I guess.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The jury's still out after looking at the many comparisons shown. Answering kbbpll's question, if it's a stolen coin the seller (thief in the event) probably wouldn't have a clue as to it's real value. Still, would not by it. 
ANA member - PAN Member - BCCS Member There are no problems only solutions - the late, great John Lennon
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I do not have quite the expertise with these to do the great diagnostic sleuthing others have provided, but looking at this coin's overall appearance, I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole. Weak mushy details, an overall flat appearance with no toning or luster - it just looks off. Maybe they managed to get most of the engraving right, but no way it's real in my opinion.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Yeah, I couldn't find enough evidence to have it removed. You're also hamstringed because you can't do all the in hand tests and have to find proof based off the pictures. I was tempted to buy it just so I could run the tests. If was a counterfeit, I would have been able to send it back even though they offered no returns.
If it was a counterfeit it was a great one.
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