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Looking For People That Know Diagnostics Of The Henning Nickel

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 Posted 03/02/2019  11:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add edweather to your friends list

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edweather, Hennings nickels were stamped, not cast


Correct, brain cramp. I do know that they did have small vertical lines around the outside edge, on some of the less worn ones. I've seen it, and I owned one with those markings. Sold it on ebay a few years ago. Had pics, but not sure if I saved them.

edit: Were the dies cast? Maybe the marks were on the dies, and transferred to the coins.
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 Posted 03/02/2019  11:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nickelcollectr85 to your friends list
Thanks edweather, I think my 44 Henning without the loop R has a dot between the D and W on the words IN GOD WE TRUST.
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 Posted 03/02/2019  11:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JC Stevens to your friends list
Some Henning Nickels have raised dots inside the "M" of "UNUM".
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 Posted 03/08/2019  3:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nickelcollectr85 to your friends list
I've been reading a lot on the Henning nickel material in this community and understand prybob was the person of knowledge and studies most on the nickel. Read several posts about him mentioning he was working on a book about diagnostics and history.. any chance any knows if he ever came out with one or not. Would really enjoy reading it in his words and study's on the material
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 Posted 03/08/2019  4:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jgfindring to your friends list
I too would be interested in knowing / finding out if he had gotten his material in a publishable or sharable form. Also, he had a lot of Hennings nickels, over a hundred if I recall correctly. Does anyone know what happened to them?
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 Posted 03/08/2019  5:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list
Here is a little bit of info http://www.numismaticenquirer.com/T...0Nickel.html
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 Posted 03/08/2019  7:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list
Finallty got the pics of what I thought might be a Henning. Although now I am doubting it b/c it s 1947-D. It is porous and weak though and I have been looking at pics of Hennings on the forum, it still resembles one to me.

Edited to add - not sure why the OBV is sideways - its not in my computer files!

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 Posted 03/09/2019  08:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nickelcollectr85 to your friends list
Your right Earle42 it does appear to have the porous appearance and lack of detail but judging by the fact it is 47-D it can not a Henning...
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 Posted 03/09/2019  4:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list
Now this weird one of mine has me thinking (oh oh!)

The 1944s with no mint mark are an obvious Henning and are well documented as such. I would think for other dates the the holey R would be a Henning giveaway also.

However this 1947-D either makes it look:

1. like environmental damage (or whatever happened to my coin) can make a nickel look like a Henning,

or

2. Henning made 1947-Ds also.

Do we have direct, verifiable evidence that Henning made 1947-P nickels, or has the knowldge of Henning 1947s (and other non-holey Rs) been based soley upon what you could call the "Henning look?"

If there is no direct documentation for 1947-P Hennings, this 1947-D is throwing a monkey wrench into the machinery.

Can anyone who knows more than I do about these nickels make sense of any of this and possibly clarify?

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 Posted 03/17/2019  9:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nickelcollectr85 to your friends list
All the information I've read in the post about the Henning nickel doesn't mention any mint marks on the nickels. I've seen several examples of the 1947 posted online with and without the looped R none of which have a mint. It does seem to have a blurred look to the coin in which I would say is environmental damage.
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 Posted 04/07/2019  7:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nickelcollectr85 to your friends list
I managed to purchase a copy of the counterfeit 1944 Jefferson nickel book by Dwight Stuckey and read it what the book states is the nickels have no mint marks and there were 6 years 39,44,46,47,and 53. Leaving the last year to be unknown.
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 Posted 04/07/2019  8:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list
I agree mine is not a Henning. For reference sake, I would like to know how the author of the book knew the dates? Is this what they got from Henning himself?

And again I restate that the damage that made mine look like a Henning could also mean people find what they think is a Henning (no loop obviously), but its really just a normal nickel with environmental damage such as mine.

I am hoping there is documentation someplace that has verifiable specifics. Or is all documentation of the Henning case vague?

My non-Henning seems to imply there are some nickels out there thought to be no-loop Hennings that are just environmental damage.

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 Posted 05/27/2019  6:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nickelcollectr85 to your friends list
So I reread the counterfeit 44 Jefferson nickel book and the information came from actual interviews of Henning himself and secret service members as well as documented information out of newspapers. This book is the closest to documentation I've found on the Henning Nickels other than little articles published on them. I would agree that there are cases of people having actual minted nickel not containing looped R that people are calling Henning nickels.. the best way I've found to identify Henning is magnification of areas on the coin looking for cast bubbles as well weight of coin.. from what I've read and seen in my collection weight is under and over I personally have a nickel that is 4.95 grams which is a looped R nickel and a looped R that is overweight also at 5.53 grams
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 Posted 05/27/2019  7:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsearcher to your friends list
There are a number of threads here on the CCF on Henning nickel diagnostics. I recall writing on myself several years back. A forum search should find them.
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 Posted 05/28/2019  1:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list
@nickelcollectr - thanks for this info.

It is good to know the interviews with Henning plus the other official sources from that time are what gives us our knowledge we have of the Henning nickels.

I am packing up everything for relocating and my scales are in a sealed box. Otherwise I would dig this one out and weigh it. Again, I know its not a Henning. Verifying the weight to be that of a proper nickel will also show environmental damage can contribute to a non-holed-R Henning look alike.

I am glad mine is not a 1947 P, or I might not have known.

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05/28/2019 1:26 pm
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