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John wrote about my two error coins I discussed with him. I thought that was cool. I'm not an error collector though so won't be looking to buy the printing.
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No comment... last time I voiced my opinion here on CCF pertaining to that column, John saw fit to reproduce my comments (as well as Mike Marshall's) verbatim in his error column... (June 4, 2013 issue of CCN). I shrugged it off... as Bill Cross later told me, "At least you gave him something to write about..."  While I don't begrudge the exposure he has given to the Canadian error collecting community, If you really want to learn more about errors, join CONECA and Errorscope is their journal publication. John really only scratches the surface on the complexity of some of the crazy errors that are hidden in collections out there... "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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I wouldn't buy it because the information is currently out there, is readily available on the subject of errors and varieties
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I am with SPP on this one.........I must be getting old
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At the risk of getting chastised in print in future columns, the CCN issue released this week (July 23rd issue) is a perfect example... of how wrong his explanations are: An extremely verbose attempt of trying to reverse engineer something that is actually much simpler, if one understands the flow of metal when coins are struck. What I see in the photo, was not even mentioned: 1. strong reverse Rim Fin2. ghosting effect That 2008 10c is a uniface strike from the result of two planchets stacked in the striking chamber. The strong Rim Fin on the reverse and poorly developed rim on the obverse, shows this, and the fuzzy image of the Queen (in normal orientation) and the Bluenose (in mirror image) is a product of a phenomena called "ghosting" due to the flow of metal into the dies on the opposite side of the coin (mirror image Bluenose) and the other planchet under the coin (normal image Queen)... Mike Diamond has explained in articles online, how ghosting works, and in thinner coins, it can even be sharper... That said, brockages and even counter-brockages, have sharp images, even with die caps that expand. Examples here: Full image brockage (June 2019 Torex Auction): https://auctions.canadiancoinsandpa.../195/lot/382Mid-stage, expanded mirror brockage (June 2019 Torex Auction): https://auctions.canadiancoinsandpa.../195/lot/402Late stage counter-brockage: https://www.PCGS.com/cert/37951198 Brockage and counter-brockage images can greatly expand, yet still have sharp details. Note that ghosting images are NEVER expanded... it is metal flow transfer from the opposing die. In fact, this phenomena is best seen on early King George V Pennies from Great Britain.  I have several modern 1-cent coins, that look exactly like that 2008 10c in that upcoming CCN article, with even stronger reverse rim finning (struck on softer Cu-plated zinc planchets) - most certainly not struck through cloth or a rag (which imparts a "fabric" on the coin's surface). Here is an example: https://www.PCGS.com/cert/32960832 The "image" you see on the uniface obverse of that 1-cent, is the ghosting of the Queen. "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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"Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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Thanks, SPP. It's always satisfying on these boards to listen to someone who knows his stuff and is actually correct in their explanations. I also enjoy Mr Regitko getting a few more pitchfork jabs in what must be a severely scarred up back.
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07/03/2019 07:35 am
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I agree with all of the opinions here and this forum is where I go for the opinions of experts and fellow collectors, as well as discussions on errors.
as far as John's columns go, I will still buy this because I have followed him (sporadically because I buy the CCN at a local shop and have missed at least half of the issues) and I enjoy the read, good, bad, or incorrect. This is the only way to catch up on the missed articles and puts them all in one edition for me.
Plus I like reading real books and print so I won't have to read this off a phone or tablet!
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 I enjoy the read. I expect it to be informative rather than authoritative. Look at how much misinformation was published in Zoell's pamphlets. Yet no one will try to steer us away from purchasing those. Despite the misinformation, I'm sure there is something useful there as well. "Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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07/07/2019 6:12 pm
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I have a 10 cent piece that looks exactly like the one from the Torex auction. Maybe it is ghosting? I should bring it with me to the RCNA convention next week. Let an expert have a look at it. I enjoy the photos in his columns but the writing not as much. |
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Show it to Henry at the RCNA (past president of RCNA)... Steve Bromberg is also one of the few coin dealers who knows his errors pretty well... "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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Anyone download and read the column in Oct 15 issue yet?
You can probably hear my head banging off my desk across the country... so embarrassing for Canadian error collectors...
"Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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I usually drop by the LCS to pick up an issue so no...any insights? lol
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 (no comment) "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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