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Good demonstration Coop! It was pretty easy to understand. 
Errers and Varietys.
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Pillar of the Community
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 Thank You!
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Pillar of the Community
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This is much appreciated!
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Pillar of the Community
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Very helpful post! Thanks.
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Pillar of the Community
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Thank you for the knowledge!
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Will it also create a thin coin at the opposite side from the fin, or a weak strike on the same side as the fin ?
Dan
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I'm not sure on that, but that thought came by me when I created this thread. But if you look at a roll of tube cents, that would explain why so many are thinner on one side.
Edited by coop 02/09/2019 01:10 am
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Coop as always well explained cause and effect concerning rim fins. Adding more food for thought. After researching rim anomilies some time back. It seems I often see the Rim Fin and folded rin fin description misused for other causes showing a doubled (sometimes more) rim. I'm under the impression rim fins fall into the double and false rim category. Other causes can produce a somewhat similar effect. https://www.coinworld.com/news/us-c...tances.html#One effect thats kept me pondering is the collar clash. More specifically a die clash with a non reeded collar. When a reeded collar clash is present, its seems to be raised on the coin and visually evident. When a non-reeded collar clash is present it visually resembles a raised fin. You rarely if ever see collar clash mentioned when a non-reeded collar was in use. Unless major die attrition is evident its typically labeled a fin. Another thing to keep in mind is Wide Collar issues. This results in a larger than normal gap between the die(s) and collar as well. https://www.error-ref.com/wide-collar/Quote: Will it also create a thin coin at the opposite side from the fin, or a weak strike on the same side as the fin ? When a coin seems abnormally thin or thick, I give it a bit more attention. US Cents are notorious for fluctuation in thickness. Modern day cents specs should be 1.52mm thick, but sometimes even the rolling of the stock material can fluctuate in thickness and show a difference from one edge to the other on the end product. Thanks, Doug.
Edited by Halo1st 02/09/2019 5:09 pm
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On the collar clashes, the die outer edge touches the collar. Leaving those lines on the die. When coins are struck, the damaged outside edge of the die leaves the lines on the rim area of the strike: https://www.error-ref.com/collar-clash/Check out the images a ways down. You can see the damage on the outside edge of the die
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Edited by Halo1st 02/09/2019 8:43 pm
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Edited by coop 02/09/2019 9:12 pm
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I eluded to die attrition in my previous reply. That seems to be a definitive collar issue regardless if it stems from a non-reeded collar or a reeded collar die wear issues. Some examples suggest a potential raised Rim Fin as well. What if a non-reeded collar clashed with a die occurred or was initiated prior to the major die attrition stage? To me it would seem to results in a raised impression along the periphery of the working dies design rim. Hence another potential looking Rim Fin. Thanks, Doug.
Edited by Halo1st 02/09/2019 11:09 pm
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Excellent tutorial! 
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Thanks, very informative description.
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