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1941 P Lincoln Wheat Cent With Class 6 DDO, But Which One?

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 Posted 09/17/2019  10:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list
No match. You could try to get it listed, as few C-VI DDOs are listed for this date because they are usually pretty minor. I hoard these by the tube.

Edit: Hoard not heard, dang infernal autocorrect
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 Posted 09/17/2019  10:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHunter27 to your friends list


Nice find!

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 Posted 09/17/2019  11:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Evan7 to your friends list
Can't help you with wheats as I'm clueless about this era of cents

Best of luck
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 Posted 09/17/2019  11:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list
Thank you GrapeCollects and CoinHunter27 for the help! I'll put this in my bag filled with minor column bar DDR's and stuff. Most of the minor Doubled Dies I have, I think are unlisted. I'll send it to Tanner Scott, for attribution at some point, once he starts taking attributions again.
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 Posted 09/18/2019  05:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list
PM TB, he is your best bet on helping. To me it looks like circulation flattening. I sent you a PM.
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 Posted 09/18/2019  08:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list
John1, it does have circulation wear and flattening, but it is a DDO. Letters are way thicker than normal, and so is the motto.
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 Posted 09/19/2019  04:25 am  Show Profile   Check tropicalbats's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add tropicalbats to your friends list
Does not look strong enough for a listing. And with the circulation wear I'd pretty much toss it back in the pile as unlikely it would get listed.

Sorry, but this one just doesn't look like a keeper.

Why? Note the thickness on the lower part of the U in TRUST. Nice, but a solid DDO would match that with a very rounded lower right leg of the R in TRUST which is not there. LIBERTY shows almost no distortion. The date is tricky due to damage but looks like the apparent offset on the 4 could be damage and not DDO. Just too many "not there" things and not enough solid bits to call it a good one. Might be a light DDO, but unless this were an undamaged coin I wouldn't do more than put it back in the wild.
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 Posted 09/19/2019  09:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list
Thank you for your input tropicalbats! I'll be keeping it anyways. I'll post a picture of a normal one, so you can see the extra thickness.
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 Posted 09/19/2019  10:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bump111 to your friends list

Quote:
026?


The "4" does look close.
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 Posted 09/19/2019  11:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list
Here's what a normal one from 1946 looks like. My example is a DDO actually, since the devices are pretty thick.

My mistake. The DDO is from 1941, not 1946.

Normal coin with no Class 6 DDO.
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1941-P-Lincoln-Wheat-Cent-With-Class-6-DDO,-But-Which-One?

1941 LWC with a Class 6 DDO. Devices are super thick. Date and motto are way thicker than normal. That's what a Class 6 DDO looks like.
1941-P-Lincoln-Wheat-Cent-With-Class-6-DDO,-But-Which-One?
1941-P-Lincoln-Wheat-Cent-With-Class-6-DDO,-But-Which-One?
1941-P-Lincoln-Wheat-Cent-With-Class-6-DDO,-But-Which-One?
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 Posted 09/19/2019  12:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pound_foolish to your friends list
I think it does look like a DDO (class VI distended 194 of the date; US of TRUST, hooked end of the lower horizontal line of E in IGWT) but also remember there was master die doubling visible especially on the B and R in LIBERTY in many of the 1940s LWC (definitely 1941). These borderline distinguishable DDOs are never made clearer by circ wear. Again this one smacks of DDO-026, 26-O-VI.
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Thank you pound_foolish for your help! I'll try matching it to DDO-026, when I get home from work.
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 Posted 09/19/2019  8:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stoneman227 to your friends list
This may well not be a listable doubled die but it is one. E&V , I hope you don't mind but I borrowed parts of your images and did a crude side by side.
The central loop of the S of Trust is one of my favorite pickup points for a class VI obverse. A shelf like distortion can develop there on many class VI's.
Note the crude arrow pointing to the area I'm referring to.

1941-P-Lincoln-Wheat-Cent-With-Class-6-DDO,-But-Which-One?

I just want to add a link to one of the best tutorials that I have come across on class VI doubled dies.
Jason did an excellent job.
http://www.lincolncentforum.com/for...doubled+dies

I just wanted to add that the best way to think about a class VI DD isn't that the devices are enlarged (because other things can cause this ) but they are distorted in predictable ways.
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 Posted 09/19/2019  8:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list
Thank you very much Stoneman for your time and for your input! I will read the article on Class 6 DDO's, since I love reading about Doubled Dies in general. Once Tanner Scott starts taking attribution again on his website, I will try to see if he can list it for me. I will save this coin in my "Doubled Dies bag" I have, when I have a too difficult time trying to match them.
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