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Coin-Flipper I think you miss the point. The important fact and reasoning for buying a few of these is education and making people aware of the availability of each and every counterfeit that may and will appear in the market place. Using stock images shows nothing. mcshilling here is a genuine obv. Image courtesy Heritage auctions.  |
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Libertad these are all struck. Not cast. Full luster etc. They are much better in hand in that regard. As I said earlier, I am happy the obverses are so bad.
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Thank you for sharing!
Libartad I believe these are made in a press with dies.
They're rather crude counterfeits, I'd really like to know about the well made counterfeits made with laser etched dies. Have anymore been discovered That anyone knows of? Those were very concerning.
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nickelsguy your right I apologize I did not know the intention of buying. I honestly thank you and other members for taking your time in this hobby to educate us because they could be costly mistakes in purchasing.
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Morning Alan. Yes, they are crude. As all the Chinese "replica" coins are. But our hobby has been decimated by CRUDE fakes in the last 15 years. Laser cut dies as a rule are too expensive to make for Canadian coins. I have seen 3 and 3 only. The 1921 5 cents and 1948 dollar counterfeits made in the mid east circa 1968ish are by far the best. A true artisan made that set.
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Rest in Peace
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Such pieces do not challenge a well educated collector or dealer, but that's not who they are aimed at.
Those who see a potential super bargain see the hype, not the coin and often never find out they have been taken. Or they attempt to sell the pieces for a profit (less likely) and discover they are worthless.
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Or moxking a new or vulnerable collector gets stung and leaves the hobby which is a loss to all.
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Mikey is a real do-gooder for the hobby ... but you can't tell that by just looking at him. A great guy and honest to the bone.
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11/03/2019 8:30 pm
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This world needs guys like Mikey! Thank you for your time! Is truly appreciated
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The reverse of that 1967, the crown at the top of the coat of arms is completely wrong... first thing I saw...
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nickelsguy I took your 2 pics and did a side by side so use that are not that familiar them can see the difference. if this is not OK then please remove.  |
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Thanks eh! That will help people! MM
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@nickelsguy, The Arab counterfeits of late 19th and early 20th Century U.S. gold were also exceptionally well done. Many of these worked their way into legitimate slabs. They were struck from hand cut dies, using correct U.S. coin gold standards. They were created to smuggle conflict gold into the Middle East past the watchful eye of the Brits and the UN, because (apparently) classic coins were not considered conflict gold. The skill of the diemakers was exceptional. The skill of the coiners was exceptional, as was their attention to detail, including basining the dies using historic mint techniques and having the correct number of reeds on the coins. I fear the Chinese counterfeiters are rapidly closing in on this level.
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Thanks for posting images of the 1967 gold fake. I'm curious as to whether this is the same size as the original? And not larger like the Sudbury gold coin monument medallion which is much larger, which some unsuspecting people have bought at real gold prices.
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11/27/2019 3:39 pm
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