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@Commems
Thanks for the images. Just a question, is this the first time that the reigning monarch is not on the obverse of the annual SD. I know that KGVI and KGV have been on "special edition" releases but not the prime annual release.
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I just checked and there are only 3 non reigning monarch 36mm SDs:
- 2010 - 75th Anniversary of Voyageur (KGV)
- 2011 - 100th Anniversary of original Dollar (KGV)
- 2015 - 100th Anniversary of In Flanders Fields (KGV)
All of these are in the "Special Edition" category.
I am excluding the 34mm Piedfort and the "renewed Series" which have had more variety in Obverse image.
Is this a new trend to use the monarch on the throne when an anniversary is commemorated... Should we look forward to a Victoria obverse on the SD when 1867 is next commemorated?
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01/09/2020 12:05 pm
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@vonigohcr: I believe your three-coin list is correct regarding the appearance of a previous monarch vs. the reigning monarch on Canada's 36mm SDs. It has become a rather common practice for the RCM to use non-reigning portraits for other denominations (e.g., the recent WWII Battlefront series of $20 coins which feature Paget's KGVI portrait/effigy rather than QEII). I believe the RCM will continue the trend. An interesting mini-group of related SDs are those that portray a non-current portrait of QEII. You'll find examples on the: - 2003: Coronation SD (from Special Edition proof set; the Mary Gillick portrait of 1953-1964 vs. Susanna Blunt's portrait of 2003-present) - 2013: Korean Armistice Anniversary SD (the Mary Gillick portrait of 1953-1964) vs. Susanna Blunt's portrait of 2003-present) - 2017: 1967 Centennial Commemorative SD (from Centennial Commemorative proof set; the Arnold Machin portrait of 1965-1989 vs. Susanna Blunt's portrait of 2003-present) There may be others, but those three come immediately to mind. Collecting history one coin or medal at a time! (c) commems. All rights reserved.
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I broke down today and bought the 2020 Victory dollar as well as (the very first time for me) the 2020 silver proof set with the embossed "V".
I also added the uncirculated set to my order.
I had never bought the silver proof set directly from the mint before due to the pricing, but I just couldn't resist this year. I'm also really looking forward to the silver dollar in the SE Set coming out in May (May 8th?). I like the looks of that one even more than the ones I acquired today.
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01/09/2020 3:16 pm
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@atticguy: I think you'll like the VE coin/set - at least I hope you will!
The set has all one-year type coins for each denomination - it may attract attention from those that don't usually buy the proof set.
Collecting history one coin or medal at a time! (c) commems. All rights reserved.
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The set has all one-year type coins for each denomination - it may attract attention from those that don't usually buy the proof set. Commems, could you please bit explain this? Do you speak about current (Jan set) or futured May set? and one-year type coins: from $2 to 1c of 2020 or proof restrike / real circulation from 1945? |
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@Silveroid: What I was referring to are the coins in the 2020 silver set other than the commemorative SD. The silver versions of the circulating coins in most of the annual fine silver proof sets are the same from year to year (except for the date) and match the design of the circulating coins. This year, however, the coins are different. They feature the effigy of King George VI vs. Queen Elizabeth II on the obverse and they all have a special victory privy mark. These coins are also different from those in the Uncirculated Set being sold by the RCM. Collecting history one coin or medal at a time! (c) commems. All rights reserved.
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01/13/2020 2:10 pm
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Quote:This year, however, the coins are different. They feature the effigy of King George VI vs. Queen Elizabeth II on the obverse and they all have a special victory privy mark. These coins are also different from those in the Uncirculated Set being sold by the RCM. Thank you, Commems, for detailed info. Appreciate. |
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The RCM must be anticipating a higher sales volume for the 2020 silver dollar - it raised the maximum mintage by 5,000 coins vs. the 2018 and 2019 SDs. The 2020 Proof Set mintage maximum remains at 15,000 but the individual proof SD maximum was raised to 25,000 vs. last year's 20,000. The 2019 D-Day SD achieved a sell out on the RCM site, as well as at Gatewest, Canadian C&C, Colonial Acres, J&M, West Edmonton and Albern. Collecting history one coin or medal at a time! (c) commems. All rights reserved.
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01/14/2020 05:06 am
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I received the first of my annual coins today: $100 Gold 14K $1 SD Unc Set Further to a post earlier in this thread, the SD has a KGVI obverse with a Victory Privy mark. The $100 Gold does also. While special editions of the $1SD have either had another monarch or as @commems noted, a historical effigy of QEII this is the first time that the $100 Gold release has been issued with an obverse other than the current circulating effigy. The Unc Set has standard obverses, no different on initial glance from 2019 except the date ($1 & $2). On re-reading the RCM website, the Silver Proof Set will also have the Victory Obverse (KGVI and Privy) as part of the "Celebration Collection". I expect this will extend to the base metal proof set due to be released in May. All in all, this is a significant departure from past practice, separating the proof sets from the Unc set in more than just finish and choice of metal in a highly visible manner. It will be interesting to see if the Specimen set has any material differences in obverse when it is released later this year. |
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This year, however, the coins are different. They feature the effigy of King George VI vs. Queen Elizabeth II on the obverse and they all have a special victory privy mark. Just got my sets in the mail today and want to clarify a couple things. The ONLY coins in the silver proof set that feature King George are the large dollar and the nickel, and the ONLY coin with a privy mark is the large dollar. Quote:These coins are also different from those in the Uncirculated Set being sold by the RCM] The only coin in the silver proof set that is different than those in the uncirculated set (aside from being struck in silver) is the nickel; which has the King George obverse and has 1945-2020 dating on the back instead of just 2020. The dime, quarter, half dollar, loonie, and $2 coins all have the same designs in both sets. Edited by atticguy
01/22/2020 3:31 pm
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The ONLY coins in the silver proof set that feature King George are the large dollar and the nickel, and the ONLY coin with a privy mark is the large dollar. Wow! I guess I misinterpreted the Mint's description (see below) on the Web site sales page for the set. They must be referring to other V-E coins vs. the other coins in the Proof Set. From the Mint's web site: "A VICTORY PRIVY MARK: Every coin in our 2020 V-E Day collection - including this set's gold-plated version of the 2020 Proof Dollar - features a special Victory privy mark."The web site also lists Paget as the designer of the obverse for all of the coins (5 cent through 2 dollar). Paget designed the King George VI effigy, so I assumed that meant George'd portrait appeared on all of the coins. @atticguy: Thanks for the update/clarification. My coins are in transit, but haven't arrived as of yet. Collecting history one coin or medal at a time! (c) commems. All rights reserved.
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@atticguy Thanks for the clarification, I stand corrected.   I have ordered but not yet received the proof set. I misinterpreted the note on the RCM site where they say: "The 2020 Pure Silver 7-Coin Proof Set - 75th Anniversary of V-E day is part of a yearlong commemoration ... " and "Every coin in our 2020 V-E day collection ... features a special Victory privy mark" I knew that only the 5-cent coin had a non-standard reverse as that is depicted on the site... only the SD has the obverse depicted but the specs on the RCM site indicate the obverse artist is T.H. Paget not Susanna Blunt as would be expected for the contemporary obverse  https://www.mint.ca/store/coins/202...hop-Silver_&I have received the standalone SD and $100 14K gold coin and they do have KGVI and the Victory privy on the obverse. The RCM's website has been wrong before... I guess I should wait until I have it in hand and not assume what is written or depicted on the website is correct  |
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Ha Ha
@commems... You type faster than I do
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Gentlemen, Yes, I took a second look at the RCM website earlier and also believed what they mentioned and was (a little) surprised when I actually got the set. Today I got the silver proof set, the uncirculated set, and the solo large silver "V" dollar proof. I'll pull both large dollars out and add them to my large silver dollar folder, right behind the 2020 "Peace" dollar I got late last year. The only coin I really liked today was the gold plated "V" dollar; the rest of today's delivery are just regular 'hole fillers'. |
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@atticguy What do you use for your collection? I use Lighthouse trays and they have been perfect until the Peace dollar. With the extra height in the capsule to protect the UHR feature, it is too tall for the tray and it is currently an orphan in the deep Murano Glass tray. Not saying I will change but since you refer to pulling the coins and adding them to the rest of your SD collection, I am interested in what solution you have opted to use. |
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