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Ad68 Fiddling While Rome Burns -Post Your Roman Denarii Pics

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 Posted 11/25/2008  07:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add maridvnvm to your friends list
How about an Antoninus Pius as Caesar?

Obv: IMP T AEL CAES ANTONINVS, Bare head right
Rev: TRIB POT COS, Diana standing right, holding bow & arrow
Minted in Rome. January 1st to February 28th A.D. 138
Ref:- BMC (Hadrian) 1006. RIC (Hadrian) 447a. RSC 1058. 14 examples in RD

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 Posted 11/28/2008  11:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumisMattyUk to your friends list
How unusual is it for the letters to read anti-clockwise like on the obverse of this coin?

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 Posted 11/29/2008  12:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add t360 to your friends list
maridvnvm - Very interesting denarius with Antoninus Pius as Caesar and with Diana holding a bow and arrow.
The way she is holding the bow is unusual - maybe it is a cross-bow?

NumisMattyUK - Great looking Vespasian! The majority of denarii have the legends reading clockwise.
However some do have legends reading counterclockwise.
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 Posted 11/29/2008  08:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nuggethill to your friends list
G'Day all I still have a few denarii to post these will have to wait as I have an extensive work load that I need to devote 6 days a week to and can only post in my spare time,Numismattyuk my Vespasian's on page 6 most of them are anti-clockwise lettering as well something to do with the slaves eliteracy regards Harry
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 Posted 12/22/2008  5:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nuggethill to your friends list
Sorry all my computer crashed with all my photo's in it and the microscope won't work with the new program (vista) so its going to be a while before I can build up another photo library
regards Harry
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 Posted 12/22/2008  7:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sir Ferrari to your friends list

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Sorry all my computer crashed with all my photo's in it

Ouch! That's too bad -- you seemed to have a lot of good pictures...I hope you can build it back up.
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 Posted 12/31/2008  06:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DagonX to your friends list
Here's some of mine. Nothing big and rare but always something

Vespasian
OBV. IMP CAES VESP AVG P M
REV. TRI POT II COS III P P
Mint: Rome

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Hadrian
OBV. IMP CAESAR TRAIAN HADRIANVS AVG
REV. P M TR P COS III
Mint: Rome

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Geta
OBV. P SEPTIMIVS GETA CAES
REV. MINERV SANCT
Mint: Rome

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Severus Alexander
OBV. IMP C M AVR SEV ALEXAND AVG
REV. P M TR P III COS P P
Mint: Rome

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 Posted 01/18/2009  09:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add t360 to your friends list
interesting group, thanks for posting them DagonX!
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DagonX, better something than nothing.
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 Posted 01/30/2009  11:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add maridvnvm to your friends list
A couple of recent additions to my Severan collection. Both are rare coins from the mint of Alexandria.

Septimius Severus denarius
Obv:- IMP CAE L S-EP SEV PERT AVG, Laureate head right
Rev:- L-EG III [IT A]V-I, TR P COS in exergue, Legionary eagle between two standards
Minted in Alexandria. A.D. 194
Reference:- BMCRE -. Cohen -. RIC -. RSC - (illustrated as 262 but an Alexandrian example was used to illustrate the Rome mint LEG III ITAL in error)

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Septimius Severus denarius
Obv:- IMP CAE L SEP SEV PERT AVG, Laureate head right
Rev:- TR P IIII IMP II COS, Mars standing right, resting on spear and shield
Minted in Alexandria, A.D. 194
References:- BMCRE -, RIC -, RSC -. cf. RIN (Rivista Italiana di Nvmismatica Vol. XCVI (1994/1995)

This type was clearly struck in 194, when Septimius was TR P II and IMP III or IIII, so TR P IIII IMP II in the rev. legend is an error, the origin of which is obvious: the type is a rote copy of the identical type and legend on denarii of Lucius Verus of 164, Cohen 228-9. The titles apply to Lucius in 164, not Septimius in 194 and the engravers simply copied a Lucius Verus type by rote.

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 Posted 02/22/2009  1:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add t360 to your friends list
Very interesting Septimius Severus denarii! So you think the engravers actually copied the deity and reverse legends from an old die, rather that actually using an old die?
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 Posted 02/22/2009  3:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add maridvnvm to your friends list
I suspect that in starting off the mint in Alexandria, which had produced very small numbers of imperial coins under Commodus, that there was a plan to enhance the political message that Septimius Severus wanted spread. He wanted to show his supposed links with the Antonine dynasty and wished to produce coins that echoed this Antonine heritage. I think that a handful of Antonine coins were chosen and sent through to Alexandria for their designs to be copied for use on the new issues. The Alexandrian engravers were not used to producing Imperial coins and had produced local coinage with Greek legends. It is not inconceivable that they simply made some errors with a few types and copied the coins, legends and all rather than engraving the devices and then applying a more suitable legend. These errors would have been spotted quickly and stopped. The remaining designs seem to echo the reverse types ranging from Hadrian through to Antoninu Pius and Commodus.

My reason for thinking that they didn't simply have a Rome mint die of Lucius Verus is that the engraving style of the Alexandrian coins is not as refined as those of the earlier Rome mint coins. Here is a Lucius Verus of the type that could have been used as a prototype from my collection for comparison.

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There are other coins where the same / similar process was used. Here is a rare reverse type for Septimius Severus (around 4/5 examples known) where the reverse legend could read COS II but in hand seems to be COS IIII.

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which would echo this common denarius of Antoninus Pius (also from my collection).

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 Posted 03/03/2009  5:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add maridvnvm to your friends list
Another recent addition...

Julia Domna denarius
Obv:- IVLIA DOMNA AVG, Draped bust right, hair tied in bun behind
Rev:- AEQVITAS II, Aequitas standing left holding scales and cornucopia.
Minted in Alexandria. A.D. 194
Reference:- BMCRE Page 86. RIC IV 607a. RSC 3a.

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BMCRE, RIC and RSC all refer to the same coin in Vienna which is queried as being plated.

Curtis Smith provided this additional information however:-
"Bickford-Smith, Mint of Alexandria, unpublished typescript (1993), p. 91: four specimens known to him, in Vienna, Berlin, Basel, and Tbilisi.

BMC and RIC refer to the Vienna specimen, which they are wrong to classify as a plated hybrid: it is a regular, solid-silver coin."

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Martin
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 Posted 03/08/2009  07:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nuggethill to your friends list
By George Martin you know your Denarii,great examples mate
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 Posted 04/28/2009  10:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add maridvnvm to your friends list
To try and keep this topic alive...

Nothing great or earth shattering but a couple of denarii I recently obtained.

Marcus Aurelius denarius, Posthumous issue minted by Commodus
Obv:- DIVVS M ANTONINVS PIVS, Bare head right
Rev:- CONSECRATIO, Eagle standing right on thunderbolt, head left.
Minted in Rome.
Reference:- BMCRE Commodus 24. RIC III Commodus 270. RSC 82a.

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(Better picture needed!)

Commodus denarius - RIC III (Commodus) 98a
Obv:- COMM ANT AVG P BRIT, Laureate head right
Rev:- P M TR P VIIII IMP VII COS IIII P P / ROM, Roma seated left on cuirass, holding Victory and cornucopia, shield and helmet behind
Minted in Rome.
Reference:- BMCRE 149. RIC III (Commodus) 98a. RSC 66

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Regards,
Martin
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