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Explain This Slab If You Can...

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 Posted 03/06/2020  12:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smokeriderdon to your friends list
I missed that in the description. That is what it looks like, that it melted. Just that for it to have gotten to the temp needed to melt that, I'm shocked the outside plastic wasnt affected. I think the rims look like that because the rubber flowed over them. Regardless, not sure I would pay even 10 bucks for them until they went back to PCGS and they removed and reholdered them.
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 Posted 03/06/2020  09:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list

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"The rubber insert inside the slab appears to have been placed in sunlight, melting the rubber slightly.




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Just that for it to have gotten to the temp needed to melt that, I'm shocked the outside plastic wasn't affected.



Admittedly I do not know much about the materials used in these old slabs, but it seems a bit weird that a slabbed coin could not be exposed to sunlight without the rubber insert melting.



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Regardless, not sure I would pay even 10 bucks for them until they went back to PCGS and they removed and reholdered them.


As to sending it back to PCGS - I can understand why the seller would not want to waste the money. Breaking this out and selling it seems more logical. Maybe the seller thought, as our own CCF member HumblePie has evidenced, that the oddity of the slab would make it desirable?

Someone want to experiment with a blow torch and a slab to let us know id they can melt the rubber without the plastic being affected?

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 Posted 03/06/2020  10:20 am  Show Profile   Check HumblePie's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add HumblePie to your friends list
I guess the moral of this story could be.

Always use sunscreen on your slabbed coins before taking them to the beach to lay out..?
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 Posted 03/06/2020  11:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alpha2814 to your friends list
The seam in the melted rubber made me think the slab had been tampered with. With the 1922-no-D being such a common target for counterfeiting, I'd think it would be worth reholdering, if for no other reason than to help ensure its authenticity. (But then, look how many eBayers buy obvious fakes.)
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 Posted 03/06/2020  12:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tunnioc to your friends list
Don't leave slabs in your car on a hot day.
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 Posted 03/07/2020  4:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add PlumCrazy814 to your friends list
It's an interesting look. It makes it look like the coin was poured through a hole from the side.
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 Posted 03/07/2020  5:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BStrauss3 to your friends list
Not for me ... if it's not worth a $12 reholder ($17 gets you the new NFC security chip) to the seller, I'll pass...
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 Posted 03/07/2020  5:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CalzoneManiac to your friends list
This slab was used from around 1999 to 2004 (when they lost designation of the official grading service of the PNG). So this coin has been in its holder for at least 15-16 years.
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 Posted 03/07/2020  11:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list
This one is a definitely an album candidate since the slab is toast.
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 Posted 03/08/2020  10:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bret to your friends list

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The seam in the melted rubber made me think the slab had been tampered with. With the 1922-no-D being such a common target for counterfeiting, I'd think it would be worth reholdering, if for no other reason than to help ensure its authenticity. (But then, look how many eBayers buy obvious fakes.)


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Not for me ... if it's not worth a $12 reholder ($17 gets you the new NFC security chip) to the seller, I'll pass...

+1 The only thing that slab should do to the value of that coin is lower it because it brings in to question the authenticity of the coin.
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 Posted 03/08/2020  11:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list
He does have a return policy though.
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 Posted 03/08/2020  6:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list
I think it would take more than a bit of sunlight to melt the plastic like that.

What happens if you put a slab in a microwave? Maybe something like this? (Science Note: don't try this at home. Don't put metal things in a microwave unless you can afford to buy a new microwave).
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 Posted 03/09/2020  5:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silverado to your friends list
There is another one listed on ebay even worse than that one ....
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 Posted 03/10/2020  09:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
I wish I had images of some of the ones that went through the postal services irradiation procedures back years ago after the anthrax terrorism attacks in DC back in 2001.
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 Posted 03/14/2020  10:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jonnin to your friends list
Yea that isn't just sunlight. That is out in the sun on a hot day for hours, or in a hot car for hours, or something like that where the thing got to 120+ degrees for an extended period. I cannot see that this would damage the coin; its a low temp for a coin but a high temp for the plastic.

A microwave could scar a coin. Silver or gold may be damaged; not sure how hot it actually gets on high, but metal gets rather hot fast in there, and those arcs & sparks cut the metal layer out of a cd in a hurry.
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