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 Posted 04/14/2020  07:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cashhound to your friends list
The following was copied from a health article:

"Cash is not a good vehicle to transport respiratory viruses, however, cards have a little bit more potential," said Dr. Susan Whittier, a clinical microbiologist at New York-Presbyterian Hospital at Columbia University Medical Center."

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 Posted 04/14/2020  07:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yellowtail to your friends list
no cash
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 Posted 04/14/2020  08:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silver101 to your friends list
Also, is stamp collecting really dead? I just typed "Newfoundland stamp" in ebay and found that there are more than 6,000 individual items. Prices are pretty low but maybe with a little imagination and research there are decent opportunities?
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 Posted 04/14/2020  09:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DavidUK to your friends list
Its funny that someone should claim electronic money more convenient than cash.

I get paid in cash, and if I want to spend electronically I need to deposit cash in the bank.

I make transactions with other physical people in cash and can budget accordingly. When I spend cash it feels like I am spending money, when I click somewhere or swipe a card it doesn't feel like I spent anything and thus it is much harder to manage. When I try to pay for something in cash my bank doesn't panic, cancel my transaction and then cause me to phone the bank and answer lots of questions just to spend my own money. Cash is easily transferred between private individuals without any need for accountants or statements to be made to the authorities. Cash is extremely convenient in my opinion.
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 Posted 04/14/2020  09:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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"Cash is not a good vehicle to transport respiratory viruses, however, cards have a little bit more potential," said Dr. Susan Whittier, a clinical microbiologist at New York-Presbyterian Hospital at Columbia University Medical Center."
In person, I prefer to use my phone. All I have to do is unlock it and get it near the terminal.

For delivery, takeout, or groceries we order and pay in the appropriate app. I never have to touch my physical card, let alone let someone else handle it.

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 Posted 04/14/2020  09:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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I get paid in cash, and if I want to spend electronically I need to deposit cash in the bank.
I have have been paid via direct deposit for nearly thirty years now. Any checks I still receive (from consulting, birthdays, or what-not) have been deposited electronically via mobile app for the last five years. Years ago it was habit to draw $80 from the ATM every week, now I am lucky to pull that every three months.


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I make transactions with other physical people in cash and can budget accordingly. When I spend cash it feels like I am spending money, when I click somewhere or swipe a card it doesn't feel like I spent anything and thus it is much harder to manage.
My experience is different. I have many tools to manage my spending electronically. I know how to budget. I know how to save. I do not feel any more compelled to spend money just because I cannot see it.

This did not happen overnight. It all started with direct deposit. Over time I added auto-draft payments for mortgage, auto (before it was paid off), insurance, etc. Not all at one time, but over about twenty years. The last thing I stroked a check for was my car registration but even that finally moved online. Mobile payments are the relative newcomer, but still a mature function for me.


I am not saying this to convert anyone, but to give an example of how one 50 year old person has adapted with the times. Those younger than me are even more adaptable to these changes. Younger still may never use cash. It sounds morbid, but we will all die eventually and the succeeding generations will certainly at some point realize that cash is no longer necessary to them. It will go extinct, probably not with a bang but a whimper.
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 Posted 04/14/2020  4:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list

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Look what happened to match covers, matchbox labels, cigarette cards, for example. The collectables still exist but virtually no-one collects them any more. In my father's day, almost everyone collected cigarette cards. Most of my grandad's friends collected matchbox labels.

People still collect all those things, just maybe not as many people. I think that most people when they decry the possible decline in the number of collectors, they are really worried about the number of collectors, they are worried about the possible decline in the value of their holdings. Because fewer collectors means lower prices. (Which means those who do collect can buy MORE!) There are 33,000 listing on ebay right now for cigarette cards, and 11,000 for matchbox labels. yes prices are low, but there is still a collector base.
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 Posted 04/14/2020  5:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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they are worried about the possible decline in the value of their holdings. Because fewer collectors means lower prices.
I agree. My value is mostly sentimental. I am not all that worried about cashless killing the hobby.
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 Posted 04/14/2020  5:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silver101 to your friends list
It's also possible that while the bulk of stamps are undervalued, there are more undervalued rarities out there that can be hunted down. Half the fun of these hobbies is looking for weird little surprises.
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 Posted 04/14/2020  10:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list
No problem by me. I love getting meals like Burger King, MacDonalds, etc. They take cash from me all the time.
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 Posted 04/15/2020  09:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list
For a few days during the quarantine we actually habitually paid with cash, because it was more convenient to take cash out of envelope 1 and put change in envelope 2 than to pay with a card and have to enter the PIN on those dirty buttons.

Eventually we started more regularly using gloves, so the dirty buttons stopped being (as much of) a problem, but it turned out that some of the smaller stores near our home (including the very closest, which we'd probably be forced to use eventually) don't accept cards at all (usually because they don't have the right kind of card reader).
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 Posted 04/15/2020  1:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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I love getting meals like Burger King, MacDonalds, etc. They take cash from me all the time.
Not here, at least not right now anyway. Sign at drive-thru entrance says "Credit/Debit Only! No Cash!"
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 Posted 04/16/2020  04:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fistfulladirt to your friends list
In my town they're not all taking plastic. If they don't take cash they will lose my business. I don't carry a credit card so I'm not carrying the mark. If I leave my cell phone home it doesn't bother me.
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 Posted 04/26/2020  4:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Big-Kingdom to your friends list
No idea about this " no cash accepted" nonsense. I saw a sign about it but it was on a drive thru and it was more about keeping the line moving late night and not dealing with people fumbling with it for uner eats orders and all the rest of the dumbness at night in a poorly light drive through with everyone wearing masks and gloves.

Nowhere has refused my purchase with cash and I try to use cash at all times.

No idea who came up with "plastic only" bit it seems pretty when a cashier could just wear gloves if they are concerned.
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 Posted 10/04/2021  4:30 pm  Show Profile   Check NumisRob's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add NumisRob to your friends list
I'm bumping this thread as I've just returned from helping my brother at a model railroad fair. He has a business selling model railroad items and usually attends big fairs all around the UK several times a year, in addition to selling online and trading on ebay. However, owing to COVID-19, many fairs have been cancelled and this is the first one we've done together since November 2019.

The people who buy things at model railroad fairs tend to be 99% male and of all ages, although there are a high proportion of pre-teens and a lot of seniors. Most of these customers have always paid in cash. It's not uncommon to see a ten-year-old boy choose a £25 locomotive and get out a pocketful of 50p and pound coins saved from his pocket money. Similarly, seniors have often paid in coins.

But this year I noticed a dramatic difference. Whereas in 2019 perhaps 10% of our sales were on cards and 90% in cash, at this recent show about two-thirds of our business was on cards. In the past customers have tendered scarce coins such as Olympic 50p's and Alphabet 10p's but this time we only got a handful of 10p and 50p coins of any kind, and no scarce dates.

Whereas in the past, customers would often apolgise if they had no cash and ask if we could take a card, this time it was the other way around, with several asking us if it would be OK to pay in cash!
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