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Is Copper More Difficult But Also More Interesting Than Silver?

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 Posted 04/24/2020  8:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list
I'm strictly bronze and especially Vickies. I don't like "bright and shiny" ... good chocolate bronze with luster is for me. I want history in my hands, not reflective surfaces.
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 Posted 04/24/2020  8:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Henry M Smith to your friends list
Nice coin. Is that an H mint mark for the Heaton Mint?
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 Posted 04/24/2020  10:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silver101 to your friends list
@Henry M Smith - yes for sure. Many NFLD coins were minted at Heaton....
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 Posted 04/25/2020  12:03 am  Show Profile   Check 1960NYGiants's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 1960NYGiants to your friends list
Copper / bronze is more reactive to the enviroment than silver and gold. Therefor more likely to get fingerprint toning and micro spots.

I actually like the look of the OP's coin. Original skin.
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 Posted 04/25/2020  01:48 am  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list
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 Posted 04/25/2020  07:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silver101 to your friends list
@1960NYGiants - it's in the top 12 of PCGS-graded coins for that year. If you're interested, it's currently up for auction at Heritage. I may bid, though I'm mostly just using it as a discussion piece as I don't really know anything about copper Newfoundland at this point.

It's interesting to me how different 'original skin' is in copper relative to silver. I guess it's obvious that copper, silver, nickel and gold will age differently; though I'd never really thought about it this way before. But the thing that struck me the other day is that there's just more to look at in copper than in the other three. I mean, there are some crazily toned silvers out there but the natural range of pigmentation, oxidation etc...etc... just seems to be greater in copper than in any of the other common metals used to make coins.

That is my brilliant insight for late April 2020.
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 Posted 04/25/2020  07:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bosox to your friends list
Actually 1872-H was well represented in the Heaton Hoard. PCGS lists 16 coins in 65 and 66 Red. There are also two or three ICCS examples (still in ICCS holders) in 66 Red.
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 Posted 04/25/2020  07:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silver101 to your friends list
Excellent point and thanks for pointing that out. I was just looking at red/brown. As I say, I'm still trying to figure copper out.
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They tend to come quite nice. Here are two of the ICCS coins in 66 Red.

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 Posted 04/25/2020  07:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bosox to your friends list
This is one of the PCGS coins in 66 Red.

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 Posted 04/25/2020  08:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silver101 to your friends list
Ye gods....those are astounding!

Illustrates the point though - the MS65 red/brown I posted is gorgeous but there's a huge difference between it and these ones. Pretty much night and day. In contrast, I find the MS65/66 to be something of a coin toss in the case of the equivalent silvers.

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 Posted 04/25/2020  08:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bosox to your friends list
Newfoundland copper is a inconsistent beast. There are probably 20 red 1872-H cents. 1909, 1913, and 1936 also have many reds. Then you dates like 1894 (no reds), 1876-H and 1890 (one red each), and 1880 Oval 0 (only three mint state and none in red). Many of the dates are feast or famine.
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 Posted 04/25/2020  09:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silver101 to your friends list
Well, that's going into my notes....thanks very much - very helpful.
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 Posted 04/25/2020  9:55 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list
This year had part of the famous "Heaton Hoard"... a decent one can be had at a quite reasonable price. I picked one up last year, in an older PCGS holder.

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 Posted 04/25/2020  10:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silver101 to your friends list
wow - also gorgeous....
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