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Pillar of the Community
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Thanks Bob and Jim for the feedback. The set is beginning to take shape now and have a few easier types to pick up before I hit some of the more difficult targets. @Novicius.....That's a lovely looking coin and has some great detail... I'm glad the thread has helped give you more detailed info on your own coin.. Here's a link that you might find interesting giving the origins of the Kyme cup reverse, I found it very useful. https://www.forumancientcoins.com/m...l_coins.htmlJust wanted to rewind a bit as I've received some information I was hoping to find concerning the Apollo coin on page 3 of this thread.(Thanks Pavlos). API is from [Λ]API[ΣAIΩN], Larissa, the city the coin is minted in (capital of Thessaly)  |
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Thanks Paul. A very interesting article.  Jim |
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Pillar of the Community
Spain
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OK number 7. Decided to tick off one of the more difficult ladies and believe me was a tough one to find!....There are a few types that are readily available from Phrygia with double cornucopiae reverse but they always seem to have an obverse ID 'Head of Laodice or Aphrodite right' and I just couldn't live with the doubt!.....This coin seems to be quite rare and I really liked the fact the reverse depicts symbols associated with her, the rose and dove. APHRODITE. She was another daughter of Zeus (this guy got around!) and Dione a Titan goddess who's parents were Oceanus and Tethys. The Goddess of love and beauty and also associated with desire, passion and sexuality (This little lady was hot!). She was the wife of Hephaestus (Vulcan) but had many lovers including Phaon, Nerites, Adonis, Hermes, Dionysus, Butes, Phaon, Hestia, Ares, Poseidon, and Anchises to mention a few! Symbols assosiated to her...Dolphin, Rose, Scallop Shell, Myrtle, Dove, Sparrow, Girdle, Mirror, Pearl and Swan Roman equivalent being Venus. The coin was minted in Laodicea ad Lycum (Laodicea on the river Lycus) which was located in Phrygia in western Asia Minor, about 100 miles east of Ephesus. It was a possession of the Kingdom of Pergamon in the 2nd century BC when the last king, Attalus III (138-133 BC), died childless and willed his kingdom to the Roman Republic. Laodicea prospered modestly under Roman rule, though it was devastated during the Mithridatic Wars between Mithridates VI of Pontus and the Romans. It eventually recovered and became a thriving commercial centre. The city was home to one of the Seven Churches of the Apocalypse mentioned in the biblical Book of Revelation. This is another place I visited many years ago and apparently this area has had extensive renovation of the ruins and also in 2019 a large bronze statue of Trajan was unearthed heres a link... https://www.trt.net.tr/espanol/cult...feso-1172687A few photos showing some areas of the ancient city..  Here's the coin.... LAODICEA AD LYCUM (Phrygia) 14mm/4.0gr. Ca 200-100 BC. Obverse: Draped bust of Aphrodite right, wearing stephane, hair in bun. Reverse: ΛAOΔIKEΩN. Aphrodite standing left, holding dove, rose with stalk to left. BMC Phrygia (p.284)27, SNG Copenhagen 497; SNG München 340; HGC 7, 744 SCARCE (R1 per HGC) Laodicea ad Lycum mint  Here's a breakdown of the reverse legend and the Roman equivalent Venus from my collection....  We're up to 7....  Edited by Palouche
08/11/2020 08:45 am
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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It is tempting to go for the low hanging fruit Paul, but much more satisfying to wait till the right coin becomes available. It removes the doubt for sure, plus the rose and dove clinches it. Congratulations on getting this rarity, it is a really nice coin. Only five (?) to go now. Jim |
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Pillar of the Community
Spain
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Thanks Jim!.... Quote:
Only five (?) to go now.
Yep the set is starting to look nice now....Dionysos is on his way to me which leaves Hera (I have one in the pipeline), Ares (know the type I like but haven't found one yet), Demeter (Again know the type but haven't found one up to scratch), And of course Vulcan (Still not decided but have started to really like the wacky Malaca types). I'm thoroughly enjoying the research and buying of the coins. One thing that has surprised me is that I've managed to stay completely focused on the set. As you know there are so many nice type coins out there and once this set is complete will continue adding lesser known gods/goddesses and Nymphs. |
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Pillar of the Community
Spain
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Numero Ocho.....8 Fell for the portrait on this one...What more can I say!?..The reverse is offset but still has nice detail and shows the Thyrsos which I liked..See below.. DIONYSOS....He was the son of Zeus (As I said before this guy got around and obviously forgot!) and ?...I'm gonna stick with...... 'Semele' who was the youngest daughter of the Phoenician hero Cadmus and Harmonia...They've got the same colour eyes..  ..... There are other claiments of course such as Demeter, Persephone, Ammon and Amaltheia. He was God of the vine, grape-harvest, wine-making, wine (Oh yes), fertility (Sounds good!), ritual madness (Ooh! I like this one!), religious ecstasy (not so much), and theatre (I love a good play)...A guy after my own heart..Wine, ritual madness and theatre  !... Maybe just skip the 'religious ecstacy' as I wouldn't want to start a war!) Symbols associated to him..Thyrsus, grapevine, bull, panther, ivy, goat, masks ( What back then aswell!) and the chalice.... The Thyrsos (Thyrsus), which is depicted on the reverse of the OP coin, was a wand or staff of giant fennel carried by Dionysus (Bacchus) and his associates; topped by a pine cone or a bunch of ivy leaves and wreathed with tendrils of vine or ivy. It was a symbol of the immortality of his believers. The Roman equivalent god was Bacchus. The coin was minted in Amisos, modern day Samsun in Turkey, under the legendary ruler Mithradates VI. King of Pontus in northern Anatolia from 120-63 BC he expanded the kingdom greatly and even gave Rome a run for its money in the Mithradatic wars. Here's the coin... Pontos, Amisos. temp. Mithradates VI, c. 105-85 or 85-65 BC. Æ (16mm, 3.98g, 12h). Struck under Mithradates VI. Obverse..Ivy wreathed head of Dionysos right. Reverse..Filleted thyrsos, bell attached with fillet, AMI-ΣOY flanking across field, monogram lower right. Mint..Amisos (Samsun, Turkey) SNG Black Sea 1192-5; HGC 7, 251. Good VF  Reverse legend...Anyone have an idea as to the Monogram?  Here's the set so far....  |
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Enjoyed the latest addition and update, Paul. |
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
1168 Posts |
 Another lovely addition to the set Paul, and a super portrait of Dionysos. I haven't seen one like that before. A really interesting write-up too. The set is really coming along now, and the image of all eight coins surrounding Mount Olympus is most attractive. Jim |
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Pillar of the Community
Spain
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Thanks Bob and Jim for the comments appreciated. I've been looking into the monogram and there seems to be 3 more commonly depicted types the op coin looks similar to type 2? Thoughts anyone?  |
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Pillar of the Community
Spain
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So here we go....Numero Nueve..9.....Another tough one to acquire...Really liked the detail and the simplistic depictions on both sides, with an added provenance bonus of it being an Ex Harlan J. Berk. HERA... Hera was the wife and sister of Zeus...And the daughter of the Titans Cronos and Rhea..She wasn't actually born like us mortals but was apparently regurgitated by her father Cronos!  Goddess of women, marriage, the family and childbirth. Symbols associated with her...Pomegranate, peacock feather, diadem, cow, lily, lotus, cuckoo, panther, scepter, throne, lion Roman equivalent goddess...Juno. This coin was minted in Samos a city/island just off the west coast of Turkey and part of the ancient region known as Ionia. It was the birthplace of Greek philosophers such as the mathematician Pythagorus, Melissus, Epicurus and the astronomer Aristarchus being the first person to propose that the earth revolves around the sun (What a mad man! We all know it revolves around money!). Samos was a rich and powerful city-state renowned for wine production, which continues to this day, in fact most of the island is still covered in grape vine. Also famous for its red pottery (Samian ware), @BobL might like this, with its smooth surfaces, rich red-brown colour and sometimes finely detailed, it is quite 'beautiful'!  Samos also has some very important UNESCO sites..The archaic temple of Hera herself 'the Heraion' which stood 6km outside the ancient city. According to tradition, the Goddess Hera was born and raised here and for this reason her temple in Heraion is the biggest in the whole ancient world 109m long x 55m wide and 25m high also commonly known as Kolona (column) due to the one and only surviving column still standing.  And 'The tunnel of Eupalinos (also known as the Eupalinian aqueduct). An amazing engineering feat, being excavated around 6BC, this tunnel was just over 1km long running right through mount Kastro allowing the city to bring in its own fresh water supply from an inland natural spring.  Here's the sweet little coin... Ionia Samos AE13 Circa 350 BC, 13.07 mm/3.08 grams Obverse: Head of Hera left Reverse: Lion's scalp facing SNG Copenhagen 1694  The set so far....This hopefully will be my criteria for max/min diameter size to try and keep the set coherent.... They still seem to sit nicely together at this point.  Edited by Palouche
10/31/2020 6:13 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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Another super addition Paul. Great detail on this coin too, well in keeping with the others in the set. The set is fairly coming along. I enjoyed the pictorial, and write up for Samos. Some surprises there. The Tunnel of Eupalinos was indeed a very impressive feat of engineering for the time, and how on earth did they erect such huge columns back then? Wow! Jim |
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United States
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Excellent update, Paul. Quote:
@BobL might like this Indeed yes! Beautiful examples of Samian ware. Great new coin. The lion's scalp is awesome. |
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Your set is really looking great, Paul.
Always a pleasure to see the next one.
The similar patinas are super, super write ups too.
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Thanks for the comment guys, appreciated. Yes Bob the pottery is beautiful but seems to be quite expensive even as shards!  ....It actually became quite widespread throughout the Roman empire, being made in Italy and Gaul. It was also the main pottery used and manufactured for the Romans across the UK.... Apparently a couple of Eastenders, Sam and Ian, took on the franchise..  |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Saddened that this thread stopped with 25% to go in 2020. Hopefully the author of the thread finds the inspiration to take it to completion.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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