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1887 Large Cent Is This Dbl- MD Both Sides? Nearly Rtcl

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 Posted 07/27/2020  6:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add papeldog to your friends list
a oddity, I wish I had one I'll be checking them a little closer now. It's a neat coin thanks for the great pictures
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 Posted 07/27/2020  7:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsguy to your friends list
Not MD IMO. Double struck. Deepest part of obverse shows clearly why I say double struck. Not MDD.
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 Posted 07/27/2020  8:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rocky to your friends list
nickelsguy you got great eyes. wow that is a incredible coin, very nice find.
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 Posted 07/27/2020  11:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fourmack to your friends list
extremely nice find
Cheers Don

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 Posted 07/28/2020  11:26 am  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list

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Double struck. Deepest part of obverse shows clearly why I say double struck. Not MDD.


I can see this, without much movement of the coin for the second strike, it does sort of have that "flat field doubling" look to it, that you see on some nickel dollar specimen strikes of the early 1970s...
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 Posted 07/28/2020  12:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list
I'm certainly not an expert on errors, but I can't see that as double struck. It just looks like the die keeper was loosy goosy and out of adjustment .. or the planchet moved.
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 Posted 07/30/2020  11:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tamarin to your friends list
Lightly cleaned but what a find! It's so hard to find Vicky large cent errors and this is one. Good stuff!
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 Posted 07/30/2020  11:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 47P7 to your friends list
Thanks everyone.
I must say I am surprised about MM's statement it being Double struck.
Was wondering about how MD could have happened ...but...
I take it..
I would guess ICCS would only mark it as "cleaned" and would otherwise most likely not comment?
Maybe it will take a journey to another TPG.
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 Posted 07/31/2020  05:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list
Why send it to a TPG? It will cost you double or triple for a single person's opinion, if they grade it at all due to the cleaning. You have a real scarcity there and it cost you a pittance. Why spend $50+ on a piece of paper, some words and plastic?
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 Posted 08/01/2020  11:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 47P7 to your friends list
Okie ,
you are right.and point well taken.
My question here in simple language:
am just curious if ICCS would mention this or not? seems to me they have advanced to a web site (or whatever one can call that). Maybe they also progressed to some advanced "grading"?
After all, the facts are undisputed on the coin.
I think CCCS would mark it as what it is in their hard slab.
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 Posted 08/01/2020  11:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list
Some TPG's will charge $50-$100 extra for a variety or error. You should find out before you send it in
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 Posted 04/20/2021  10:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add papeldog to your friends list
This coin is more amazing every time I return to look at it and wonder how many are still to be found you would think this can't be the only one.
It is the only one I have seen to date.
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 Posted 04/20/2021  1:58 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list
It likely is the only one, because like Mike, I think this coin was double struck, slightly rotated in collar. Some elements appear larger, due to flat field doubling.
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 Posted 04/20/2021  3:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JohnWayne007 to your friends list
Curious, how would a double strike show doubling on the front and the back of the queens head? I was under the impression when a double strike happens it is only in one direction and all visible doubling will follow.

Usually when you see doubling on both sides of a design element it is Machine Doubling due to the die vibration from side to side. But then again I have no idea when it comes to vicky cents, just an observation.
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 Posted 04/20/2021  3:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list
Well, I was in the MD camp and mostly still am. The doubling and offsets looks very very similar to other Vicky dates, but to see it on both sides is a one-of-a-kind.
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