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Unmarked Uncirculated Dollar Bill

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 Posted 10/20/2020  4:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SteveInTampa to your friends list
Congratulations on the grade.
I looked through my error guide, and there are zero examples like yours shown with notes titled Insufficient Inking. Your note shows up multiple times under Missing Overprint. I hate to say it, but I think PMG got it wrong. How does both the black and green ink used in the overprint run out at the same time ? PMG mislabeled an error note I submitted a while back. I had to send it back to them to get the note reholdered with the correct description. Cutting Error was wrong.

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10/20/2020 4:40 pm
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 Posted 10/20/2020  5:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list
Your note is missing the complete 3rd printing (a two color process) and is not an "insufficient inking" error. PMG missed it.

If the dealer quoted you 40$ for grading but is now charging you 60$ get your note from him and NEVER walk in that store again. He is trying to discourage you into selling the note to him because of the added costs he's sticking you with!

You are better off selling your note on ebay in a true auction format or with a crazy buy-it-now price. Ultimately, the note will bring what it is truly worth! You can also get enough quality posts here and then sell it here.

Good luck and thanks for stopping by!
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 Posted 10/20/2020  5:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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Here are the pictures of the encapsulated bill with the grading. He said we have a pretty valuable note here, just 6 pts from perfect.
Excellent!
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 Posted 10/20/2020  6:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sunnee50 to your friends list
If this is incorrectly graded then how could I sell it properly? I called the place that we used and told him what you guys said and he said he has never had one case of them making a mistake in all the years he has been dealing with them. So therefore this could be a very rare bill. I agree with you, I think this bill was stuck to the back of another bill and missed the stamping. Reason is because the story from my sister in law is that her mom told her that she worked for a high dollar retail store and it was her job to count the new money. This particular pile kept coming up $51. So she counted them one by one by one again and noticed one a little thicker but the edge was lifted. She literally peeled this one off the back of the other and saw that it was missing the serial numbers. So she took it out and replaced it with one of her own dollar bills.
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 Posted 10/20/2020  7:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list
Ok... IF there is evidence of embossing of the seals and serial numbers then the note is under inked. If there is no embossing then the note missed the 3rd printing. PMG got to examine the note in-hand; all we get are pictures. Evidently PMG saw embossing of the 3rd printing and rendered their opinion appropriately. I apologize.

There have been other series 1977 $1's with insufficient inking sold by Heritage Auctions that have sold in the 200-300 $ range. In my opinion your note would fall into that value. It is what it is!
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 Posted 10/20/2020  8:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sunnee50 to your friends list
Yes but we have the bill in our hand and there is absolutely no feel of any kind of embossing whatsoever. There is no indent, now touch of ink and no raised paper. It is completely flat. Now I am sure they look at it under microscopes so maybe they did see something we couldn't see or feel. The dealer said to put it on ebay at $950 so he seems to think that this is a very rare bill.
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 Posted 10/21/2020  01:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list
Let us know when it goes up on ebay. It'll be interesting to see how it does. Good luck!
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 Posted 10/21/2020  03:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SteveInTampa to your friends list
The note can have evidence of embossing AND be a Missing Overprint error. Typically this error occurs when two half-sheets are accidentally fed into the machine, one on top of the other. The upper sheet receives the overprint and the lower sheet is protected from the ink but still receives some embossing. This scenario happens most often.
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 Posted 10/21/2020  08:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sunnee50 to your friends list
Thanks for all your information and guidance. We are on a journey to see what it is we are going to do with it. We called his sister in CA yesterday to get them involved as we don't want to make these kinds of decisions by ourselves. Thanks again! Ya'll have a great day!
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10/21/2020 08:52 am
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 Posted 11/06/2020  5:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nells250 to your friends list
I have enjoyed reading about this bill! Nice to see someone find something interesting AND also learning about the grading process!
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 Posted 03/10/2021  9:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jonjrl1963 to your friends list
It's worth a couple hundred bucks. It's NOT a one of a kind as ive owned missing 3rd printing error notes in the denom of $5 and $10.

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 Posted 03/10/2021  9:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sunnee50 to your friends list
We got $300 for it from the collectable coin place that sent it out to get graded.
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 Posted 03/10/2021  11:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list
If you are satisfied with what you got then that is really all that matters isn't it?
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 Posted 03/11/2021  05:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sunnee50 to your friends list
It was my husband's bill that his mother left. He had to split it 3 ways after we were reimbursed for the grading cost, which was $60. So that left everyone getting $80. Better than nothing. Can't say we are happy or disappointed because it is what it is, right? We are not about greedy. We just needed it to be fair.
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 Posted 03/11/2021  09:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hfjacinto to your friends list
Hey $80 is $80. Congrats on the sale. My dad left me a few coins that didn't fit in with my collection and I sold them off also.
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