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1932-D Washington Quarter - Grade/Cleaned Or Uncleaned?

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 Posted 08/15/2020  7:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Can you return it?
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 Posted 08/15/2020  7:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nieuw to your friends list
This coin was fine until it was cleaned. The job destroyed the appearance or the overall eye appeal of the coin, and is pretty much worth only silver melt value at this point. You might be lucky though because this coin is 88 years old and is a key date, as just 12% of all Washington quarters minted in 1932 came from the Denver mint
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 Posted 08/15/2020  7:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list
You can see parallel lines on front and back where it was scrubbed/rubbed with something.

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and is pretty much worth only silver melt value at this point.

Just my opinion, but I am not sure I agree its only worth melt value. Its still a key date. If you cannot get your money back, I would suggest listing it as cleaned on ebay and there likely will be, I would guess, a lot more than melt paid for it. Some people are only hole fillers while others are more interested into the hobby and are after quality specimens. Its a hobby and to each his own. Even though I have a really nice 32-D, I would be thrilled to find something like yours for just melt value.
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What's the weight?
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To CCF , I would try to return it . Harshly cleaned .
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If you can't return it, then I'd guess the market value would be half to two-thirds of the price of a no-problem specimen.
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Thanks everyone for replying. Couple more questions
Since I am new to collecting, what gives it away that it was cleaned? The scratched almost wirebrushed look? Or the color? Was it chemically cleaned? would like to know for future reference.

Also, since it is such a rare coin, if passed down to kids/grandkids (lots of time) would it eventually be "uncleaned" again from new patina? or will someone always be able to it was cleaned?
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Since I am new to collecting, what gives it away that it was cleaned? The scratched almost wirebrushed look?

Yes...as I mentioned above. Parallel lines are typically left by someone rubbing the coin. When severe lines are left is can be from an actual wire brush.


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Or the color?

Yes. If the picture is showing an accurate representation of the coloring, it looks like a coin that has been cleaned (likely a chemical) to the point it has a dull and lifeless finish. A coin, when first pressed, has had the surface metals pushed into the die and results in a micro-dimpled surface which reflects light with a depth and color that disappears with circulation wear. Circulation actually removes those micro-bumps and the light reflects from a much smoother surface - the cartwheel affect of luster is gone.


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Was it chemically cleaned?

If the lighting in the pic is showing what the surface looks like, then yes, it could have been dipped into a cleaner like E=Z-est for too long. This product removes a microscopic layer from the surface metal. If done properly then the surface can still give some depth of luster. But when over dipped, the flat, lifeless look is seen.
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08/15/2020 9:33 pm
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Your term "wirebrushed" captures it well. The surfaces are pasty and unnatural-looking.

The appearance of such a harsh cleaning will NEVER change appreciably over time.
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 Posted 08/15/2020  9:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list
BTW - here is a link to a fake 1932-D side by side with a real one. I post this b/c someone brought up the issue of the weight of yours. I believe yours is legit:
http://goccf.com/t/136142
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08/15/2020 9:37 pm
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Thank you Earle42 and CoinFrog! What should this 1932-d weigh? Online it says 6.2-6.25, so it would prob be a little less because of the cleaning. I'll weigh it when I get home.
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 Posted 08/15/2020  10:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list
Not sure the cleaning will really remove that much material to be noticeable (weight I mean).
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08/16/2020 5:14 pm
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what a shame. totally destroyed a key coin.
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