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@bosox - perhaps as regards specimens grade large cents but that's a small fraction of what people consider to be collectable. Once you go down the food chain to things that aren't going to sell for >$300 there's relatively little point sending them to PCGS for a $65 (USD) grading. Lots of coins are still going to ICCS and a great many coins that were graded by ICCS prior to 2016 are still in ICCS holders. I'm not defending their grading (or holder) one way or the other - but I have no doubt that their data could be part of an informed person's approach to collecting.

P. S. because of exodus of decent coins from ICCS thru crossovers, I think the ICCS pop reports for lower grades are also odoriferous. Dealers keep ICCS alive, not collectors.

Does it surprise you that knowledgeable collectors look for undervalued coins, or that anybody in the numismatic industry follows the money?

It's interesting - there's got to be a point when an over-graded coin becomes an albatross. I'm sure we've all see over graded coins in PCGS holders sitting still on ebay for months while people pass their inflater prices by...

Look, I am not trying to be argumentative, I have bought coins graded by all the major services. Many were accurately graded, many were not. It all comes down to two well-repeated mantras - "buy the coin, not the holder", and "learn to grade yourself."

I agree with earlier comments about grading companies they all make mistakes like our selves as we are all human. So preference is within ourselves when it comes to a choice who we will use as a grading company.

I used ICCS for years as my grading Company of choice they make mistakes lots, under grade in certain area's over grade in others. The thing that really bothered me was that they graded cleaned coins as normal with no mention of the coin being altered this turned me off with them. Plus other thing I got tired of their soft flips very little protection for coins, no hard slab available.

I changed to PCGS for my preferred grading Company they have the hard slabs to protect your coins that I really like, the True View photo with high resolution of your coins I love, the Registry Sets are fun to be involved with for collectors, and the recognition throughout the World as being one of the best or one of the best 2 grading Company's in the World today.

Both Companies grade differently I think PCGS grades with more accuracy taking in more detail of your coin colour, rim nicks, scratches, cleaned, enviro damage, eye appeal just a few things that make them my preferred grader where ICCS mentions none of these things on your flip.

Grading coins is something that everyone has an opinion on it can get heated between a couple of people at times. Kind of like religion and politics can lead to an argument, but all depends on how you grade coins like ICCS or like PCGS. I just think PCGS is better at it although more cost than other grading Companies.

I hate hard slabs. The intimacy that makes collecting fun is eradicated. Soft flips when new can be tolerable but with time and handling the lightest scuff becomes a barrier for eye contact and appreciation. Yes, I'm a big supporter of raw coins. With that said, if you want to sell high end coins at respectable prices you'll have to consign to a TPG in which you have confidence.