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1803 Draped Bust Half Dollar Legit?!

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 Posted 12/26/2020  06:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echidna to your friends list
Fake
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 Posted 12/26/2020  09:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cipster to your friends list
I'm not seeing anything that makes me think it's fake so I may learn something here.

Here's my 1803

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 Posted 12/26/2020  10:59 am  Show Profile   Check Zurie's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list

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Could you explain why you think that?

I'm always suspicious of of high value coins that aren't slabbed, but I don't see anything that jumps out to indicate a counterfeit.
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 Posted 12/26/2020  11:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Sharper pics would help us evaluate the surfaces better.
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 Posted 12/26/2020  12:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list
Pass on the coin unless the seller is willing to send photos that are in focus. The value depends a lot on the grade if the coin was VF details $350 and XF40 straight grade $1400, but can not grade from these photos.
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 Posted 12/26/2020  1:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add suipakpaikungfu to your friends list
I'm nowhere near an expert on these, buts looks OK to me.
The die lines in the ear are on both coins...
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 Posted 12/26/2020  3:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHunter00 to your friends list
Sorry, I fixed the heading!! And it seems like there are a lot of mixed responses so I am still pretty confused! Also, I am waiting for additional photos here! Thank you all for the replies!!
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 Posted 12/26/2020  6:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jfransch to your friends list
I am no expert on draped bust dollars, having stopped collecting US type coins 40 years ago but the obverse rim is totally wrong for an early bust coin struck without a collar. Should be denticles, not a perfect raised rim. Should have denticles all around like cipster's coin has. My vote is fake
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 Posted 12/26/2020  6:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
As I say, better pics needed. Almost certainly some attempt at cleaning.
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The obverse rim looks okay to me for a VF draped bust half dollar. It's a large 3 variety, and it matches Overton-103 exactly, so I'm leaning towards genuine (unless it's a cast counterfeit). As others have mentioned, the photos aren't good enough to assess the surfaces, so it could be a details coin.
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 Posted 12/26/2020  7:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echidna to your friends list
Better pics are needed.
Also a pic of the rim from the side.
Need weight.

As mentioned by jfransch the rim doesn't look right.
The stars look wrong also.
Cleaning is often used to disguise a fake by the way.
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 Posted 12/26/2020  7:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cipster to your friends list
OK, you guys are scaring the cr*p out of me as I bought mine raw from a good friend who owned it for many years. Mine looks like a twin of the ops coin.

Here's an incredible coincidence. I'm so bored that I recently sent this coin out for grading along with many others so let's see how that goes.
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 Posted 12/26/2020  7:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list
Genuine IMO. I've bought and sold over a dozen raw bust halves and dollars with no issues. As long as you can properly attribute the coin and be sure of it's authenticity it's a non issue
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I think the authenticity is not the issue here. The issue is the true condition of the surfaces after an apparent cleaning, which looks worrisome from these blurred images.
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 Posted 12/27/2020  02:15 am  Show Profile   Check Zurie's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list
I agree with @Coinfrog—the main concern is you can't tell whether it's a details coin from the photos, which would affect the value considerably.

@cipster, your coin also looks genuine. It's an O-102a, which uses the same obverse die as the OP's coin, but a slightly different reverse (see the position of the berries and the first A in AMERICA).
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