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I'm not seeing anything that makes me think it's fake so I may learn something here. Here's my 1803  
Member ANA and EAC "You got to lose to know how to win". Dream On by Aerosmith
Edited by cipster 12/26/2020 09:39 am
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Pillar of the Community
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Quote: Fake Could you explain why you think that? I'm always suspicious of of high value coins that aren't slabbed, but I don't see anything that jumps out to indicate a counterfeit.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Sharper pics would help us evaluate the surfaces better.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Pass on the coin unless the seller is willing to send photos that are in focus. The value depends a lot on the grade if the coin was VF details $350 and XF40 straight grade $1400, but can not grade from these photos.
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I'm nowhere near an expert on these, buts looks OK to me. The die lines in the ear are on both coins...
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 United States
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Sorry, I fixed the heading!! And it seems like there are a lot of mixed responses so I am still pretty confused! Also, I am waiting for additional photos here! Thank you all for the replies!!
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I am no expert on draped bust dollars, having stopped collecting US type coins 40 years ago but the obverse rim is totally wrong for an early bust coin struck without a collar. Should be denticles, not a perfect raised rim. Should have denticles all around like cipster's coin has. My vote is fake
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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As I say, better pics needed. Almost certainly some attempt at cleaning.
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Pillar of the Community
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The obverse rim looks okay to me for a VF draped bust half dollar. It's a large 3 variety, and it matches Overton-103 exactly, so I'm leaning towards genuine (unless it's a cast counterfeit). As others have mentioned, the photos aren't good enough to assess the surfaces, so it could be a details coin.
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Better pics are needed. Also a pic of the rim from the side. Need weight.
As mentioned by jfransch the rim doesn't look right. The stars look wrong also. Cleaning is often used to disguise a fake by the way.
Watch your top knot
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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OK, you guys are scaring the cr*p out of me as I bought mine raw from a good friend who owned it for many years. Mine looks like a twin of the ops coin.
Here's an incredible coincidence. I'm so bored that I recently sent this coin out for grading along with many others so let's see how that goes.
Member ANA and EAC "You got to lose to know how to win". Dream On by Aerosmith
Edited by cipster 12/26/2020 7:33 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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Genuine IMO. I've bought and sold over a dozen raw bust halves and dollars with no issues. As long as you can properly attribute the coin and be sure of it's authenticity it's a non issue
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Bedrock of the Community
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I think the authenticity is not the issue here. The issue is the true condition of the surfaces after an apparent cleaning, which looks worrisome from these blurred images.
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Pillar of the Community
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I agree with @Coinfrog—the main concern is you can't tell whether it's a details coin from the photos, which would affect the value considerably. @cipster, your coin also looks genuine. It's an O-102a, which uses the same obverse die as the OP's coin, but a slightly different reverse (see the position of the berries and the first A in AMERICA).
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