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1985 Canada / New Zealand Dollar Mule?

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 Posted 01/12/2021  07:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ningcumpoop to your friends list
I forgot to mention diameter. I measure 32 mm. Looks the same as the 1985 when stacked.
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 Posted 01/12/2021  07:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add loonielewy to your friends list

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As for ping I cannot tell a difference.


Good news there. You would have heard a difference. .

Is the copper we are seeing in the pics just lighting?

Is the alignment perfect? This would be good. Trust me, it is very hard to get perfect alignment when turning 2 coins into 1. ,

What did you use for measuring the diameter? Tape measure, vernier calipers or a micrometer? Your coins values for weight and diameter are probably within the mints acceptable range. Looking good.

Lets hope SPP sees this soon. He knows the nickel dollars well. .

Like I said earlier, and with your added info, I think its real. I can't imagine your heart rate about this. Congrats, but don't have "the big one". .
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 Posted 01/12/2021  09:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list
Major errors like this should be in a PCGS slab to get max value, but this error speaks for itself any slab will do if you are going to sell it. I have been waiting for many weeks for delivery of some Heritage auction items that normally delivered in normal times 10 days after auction, I hope the delays are only due to covid. Check I Collector for last sold one of these coin, ICCS use to grade these coin phone them out,
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 Posted 01/12/2021  12:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add robmck1967 to your friends list
amazing find! congrats and thanks for sharing!

I think the copper is just lighting by the way it only seems to reflect off the edge of the raised designs.
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 Posted 01/12/2021  12:44 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list
1985-Canada-/-New-Zealand-Dollar-Mule?

Wow! That one is still on my "want list"... congrats!
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 Posted 01/12/2021  4:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bond632 to your friends list
Very nice find indeed. Makes one wonder how they operate at the mint though, just a big old pile of dies laying around that they pick from.
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 Posted 01/12/2021  6:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 47P7 to your friends list
Great find... It will be well worth your while.
Do yourself a favor and send it to be graded. 8 years ago, mine went to ICCS and graded MS60. yours is better than mine was.
CCCS will also grade it.
Yours looks like it should be about MS64... big $$
mine sold for 8K in a private transaction to a BC collector who already had several of them. a few months later there was one in an auction in Australia for 12K US
here is the image of mine

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Roger, at the time you sent me this question:
why did you not sell it to me?
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 Posted 01/12/2021  8:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ningcumpoop to your friends list
Thank you to everyone who posted information, opinions and insight to this thread. I am still calculating my next move at this time. Any more guesses as to the grade?
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 Posted 01/12/2021  8:45 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list
Very hard to tell with the lighting on your coin... 1985 is a notoriously bad year for "baggy" coins.
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 Posted 01/13/2021  04:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
Hard to grade from these pics.
I will guess good EF (British/NZ grading)
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 Posted 01/29/2021  7:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 47P7 to your friends list
Your coin , the way it looks, and compared to the one I had, will grade MS.. at least 62 IMO.
Mine was MS60... compare these yourself.
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 Posted 04/23/2021  2:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ningcumpoop to your friends list
I mailed the coin to PCGS nearly 3 months ago today along with a few others. I finally got the notification for the grade today. The coin is authentic and comes with a grade of MS-62. Not too bad. I was expecting 60 and hoping for 62 so I'm content with that.
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 Posted 04/23/2021  3:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list
I thought maybe a 63, but still cool congrats by the way what did PCGS all in charge for this coin ?
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 Posted 04/23/2021  3:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ningcumpoop to your friends list
Here's a list of the PCGS fees. Shipping is extra and was shared with other coins in the submission. I don't know exactly but well worth the money for a rarity.
https://www.PCGS.com/servicesandfees
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 Posted 04/23/2021  5:20 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list
Congrats!! You can now "show" your coin without it having to leave a safe place, and selling it in an auction in the future will be easy in a PCGS holder.
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