1864 Indian Head Cent, Mis-Labeled Error? Please Help

This coin is a little over nominal and is an AU-58

Here is a shot of the same variety where the die brakes are not as broken as my coin. This later die state has a deep double break that runs up into the U of united and also from the rim to the I in united as well as a cracks that run thought the U into the neck point and off the 4 into the rim. So this coin or my coin should have die edge rim Cuds if it was struck in collar.

Yes its a Snow 2 and attributed. This is the 2nd AU 58 in a Snow to graded by PCGS and that AU 58 makes this one look MS 62. I agree with the AU grade BTW 58+ would be the out right correct grade as it has just the faintest circulation rubs. The images of the Cud's are on an MS 63 coin from PCGS coin facts. It looks like their are only 5 MS examples of a Snow 2 graded by PCGS. They have an MS 63 without Cuds in coin facts, but that coin the die breaks are really early "or not as large yet"

That doesn't mean it is not that die, it means your coin was struck before/after the die damage continued to get worse. They are both from the same die. Note the RPD. It is the same. But weight of the planchet might be a bigger issue on your coin? Is there a snow number for that die?

Snow 2, and this is a later die state based on the die cracks and their progression. Die breaks don't get smaller as the die wares. Die cracks on the other hand can be polished away to a point where they appear to be earlier when in fact they are a reduced post polished crack. I die break to me is displacement and raised metal.

The fact the collar of this coin is rounded over on its edge on both sides and only 20% of the edge is flat as if a collar die was present, is my key indicator personally

When it gets back today I can, but I already used a micrometer and its not a tapered or thin planchet. It is just the slightest out of round with its widest point being around 10:30

Again this coin scales as a little heavy UNC, not light. When you look at the edge of this coin its rounded "not flat" Like no collar die! only one section is flat on its edge and that is right around 3:00 on while looking at the obverse.

Take a few pennies and hold them on their edge. the edges are flat, this coin has rounded edges and the edge of the seat and hammer die edge cant be seen except for that small area on the reverse die.

I understand a thin planchet concept, the issue with that is a thin planchet will and would be a little under weight of nominal, not over weight as this coin is.

Looks like Snow-2b 1864-L, 1864/1864 (s)

OBV Die 6, Stage C (die crack from rim at 7:00 through U to bust point; die crack from base of 4 to the rim at 5:00; die crack extends through the date) paired with RVS Die V, Stage B (die crack connects the right wreath and the shield). Also, according to Rick Snow that is a heavy die scratch in the denticles beneath the 4 of the date.

More food for thought. Might double check the edge for any sign of a wide collar issue. Thanks, Doug.

http://www.error-ref.com/wide-collar/

Thanks for the images. It does show the flat edge. Looking at the straight on shots, you would never had guessed, it was normal looking on the edge. Thanks again.

Just bumping this one for a guy at NGC