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1981-P Roosevelt Dime - Split Die And Obverse Cud

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 Posted 04/21/2021  10:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wadahek to your friends list
This is a beautiful portrait of Roosevelt right after getting his wisdom teeth removed
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 Posted 04/21/2021  11:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHI to your friends list
Very nice! I have a question. It doesn't appear that the split die is joined in the center. Is this not a prerequisite of a split die? I understand the crack is wide enough to be considered a split die but I see UDC 1c 1917S-01R not listed as a RRDC because it doesn't join in the center but is obviously a related directional bisecting event like this coin.
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Top Finds - 1969-S 1c FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/477681 1976 D WQ FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/382777 - 1968 D 1c FS-801 http://goccf.com/t/422254
Cool clashed dies - 1972 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/429855&SearchTerms=CCL
Struck-In Rim Burr - 1969 S 1c http://goccf.com/t/425587&SearchTerms=burr
Floating (Type II) Counterclash - 1978 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/434991&SearchTerms=1978


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 Posted 04/21/2021  12:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHunter27 to your friends list
That's a very nice example! Super neat to see errors like this every once in a while.

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 Posted 04/21/2021  12:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KeepTheChange to your friends list
The split in the die exceeds the depth that the Planchet can display. The head of roosevelt is actually sunken in on the die and cannot be raised any further than shown,bc it is the lowest point. Here is a nickel showing the same thing.
1981-P-Roosevelt-Dime---Split-Die-And-Obverse-Cud
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 Posted 04/21/2021  9:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add QuarterHoarder72 to your friends list
Incredible! Was this a crh find or a purchase?
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 Posted 04/21/2021  11:07 pm  Show Profile   Check tropicalbats's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add tropicalbats to your friends list
Very, very nice. Extremely nice error.
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 Posted 04/22/2021  11:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHI to your friends list
Maybe I need a Coop illustration to help me but I'm still unclear. On the nickel, it seems the split die is showing on the bust fine, until the center area. Wouldn't that area be the same depth on the die?
"Pride is yoked with callous behavior, as humility is with compassion." St. Gregory Palamas

Top Finds - 1969-S 1c FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/477681 1976 D WQ FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/382777 - 1968 D 1c FS-801 http://goccf.com/t/422254
Cool clashed dies - 1972 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/429855&SearchTerms=CCL
Struck-In Rim Burr - 1969 S 1c http://goccf.com/t/425587&SearchTerms=burr
Floating (Type II) Counterclash - 1978 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/434991&SearchTerms=1978


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 Posted 04/22/2021  11:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numisma to your friends list

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Maybe I need a Coop illustration to help me but I'm still unclear. On the nickel, it seems the split die is showing on the bust fine, until the center area. Wouldn't that area be the same depth on the die?


That area is directly opposite Monticello, so there's not as much striking pressure since there's more space to be filled by metal. The crack still runs across the whole coin, but it just can't be filled without sufficient pressure.

Thanks for the explanation, KTC!
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 Posted 04/22/2021  12:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHI to your friends list
Thanks Numisma, I can understand that explanation.
"Pride is yoked with callous behavior, as humility is with compassion." St. Gregory Palamas

Top Finds - 1969-S 1c FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/477681 1976 D WQ FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/382777 - 1968 D 1c FS-801 http://goccf.com/t/422254
Cool clashed dies - 1972 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/429855&SearchTerms=CCL
Struck-In Rim Burr - 1969 S 1c http://goccf.com/t/425587&SearchTerms=burr
Floating (Type II) Counterclash - 1978 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/434991&SearchTerms=1978


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 Posted 04/23/2021  2:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list
It's impossible to determine whether this die displays a split die or two radial, antipodal die cracks that pinch out without meeting in the center. They become lost in a centrally located die subsidence (sunken die) error.
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 Posted 04/23/2021  2:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
Thanks Mike. Another Roosevelt nickel. LOL
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 Posted 04/23/2021  3:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list
I was, of course, referring to the dime, not the nickel.
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 Posted 04/23/2021  6:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHI to your friends list

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It's impossible to determine whether this die displays a split die or two radial, antipodal die cracks that pinch out without meeting in the center. They become lost in a centrally located die subsidence (sunken die) error. - Mike Diamond


How, if at all, would this information affect existing and future SD listings on CudsonCoins?
"Pride is yoked with callous behavior, as humility is with compassion." St. Gregory Palamas

Top Finds - 1969-S 1c FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/477681 1976 D WQ FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/382777 - 1968 D 1c FS-801 http://goccf.com/t/422254
Cool clashed dies - 1972 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/429855&SearchTerms=CCL
Struck-In Rim Burr - 1969 S 1c http://goccf.com/t/425587&SearchTerms=burr
Floating (Type II) Counterclash - 1978 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/434991&SearchTerms=1978


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 Posted 04/23/2021  6:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list
I'm not the gatekeeper for Cuds on Coins, so I can't answer that.
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 Posted 04/23/2021  6:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MisterT to your friends list
I had to look at the one I have to see if it was a earlier die state example before the die split but then I found that mine is a 1985P with the same size Cud in the same location. No split die of course. Congrats on a nice find!
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