1986 Liberty Silver Dollar - Possible DDO?

I don't think the date itself is incuse, tho it looks like it, even in person. After putting the coin under the scope from many different angles, the date definitely appears raised under magnification.

If it is raised, then I beliebe it to be a minor DDO

https://web.archive.org/web/20090519211803/https://moderncommemoratives.com/19...lver-dollar/

These links don't seem to work.

I copied the quote into Google and found the forum where this was mentioned:

https://www.cointalk.com/threads/19...post-1024415

A user posted the same quote about the date being incused and attached the source link where they retrieved the information (from the cointalk thread hyperlinked above).

However, if you go to the same source link now, the sentence has changed to the following:




Maybe this means the website initially said the date was incuse but was incorrect and changed the wording at a later date?

Is there a picture angle I can take to help identify this? The solid grey area where the date is located is lower/slightly below the impressions of the Statue of Liberty/Ellis Island that lie above it (demarcated by the line that separates the bottom of the Statue of Liberty/Ellis Island and the date) - maybe that caused the light glare you are referring to? Again, I'm a novice here, just throwing ideas out there : )

Trying to find a better example to illustrate this and boom:

http://goccf.com/t/350344



Perfect example because of the wear and the heavy scratch through the date. If the date were raised, it would be the first thing to start to go from the wear, yet it's intact. If the date were raised, the scratch would hit the numerals, yet it skips right over them.

It's tricky to show whether something is raised/incuse with just images, because images have no depth. And you said you are looking at the date under your scope, so you're only seeing it as an image on a screen? This problem comes up all the time on the v&e forums when people ask "strike-though or damage?", we mostly have to just go off their word if it's raised or incuse when we give our opinion. Pictures of raised or incuse elements that are too close make good optical illusions, it's hard to tell if it is raised/incuse. Comparing shadows and glare is one way to deal with it, but it's not always perfect. If we know one element on a coin is raised we can look at how the shadows and glare caused by the lighting affect it and see if the unknown element is showing the same thing. But if the pics given only show the unknown element, or the pics are all from different angles, you can't figure out anything.

Edit:



No, I think the date is incuse relative to that bottom as well. The date is lower than the field around it.

Sorry for the delay, CC...a family member tested positive for covid, then my brother shortly thereafter - long story short everyone's fine now but it took up a lot of my time...hope everyone out there is safe and healthy.

The date is in fact incuse - my apologies for stating otherwise, as I was sure that the pictures I took showed a raised date. Lesson learned...thank you all for the replies/opinions.