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Coin Found On Beach, Counterfeit Or Real?

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 Posted 05/27/2021  10:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kushanshah to your friends list
I suspect it's a lead bale (bag) seal from the Spanish colonial period, used to seal goods for shipping. Spanish would seem most likely based on the Texas coast find spot but not the only possibility. [edited]
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 Posted 05/27/2021  11:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add harrisiv to your friends list
Doesn't appear to have the weight of lead...makes slight "dinging" sound when dropped on glass table. Conductivity reading on my metal detector is more consistent with copper/zinc, heavier gold, or light silver. I know that doesn't tell anyone much but that is the best I can do.
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 Posted 05/27/2021  12:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list
@harris, when you say you found it on a beach, might this beach have been either on the gulf coast of Texas or Florida? I seem to remember another thread where someone found a similar piece in that geographic range.
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 Posted 05/27/2021  12:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add harrisiv to your friends list
@Spence Found it metal detecting on beach on North Padre Island, Texas, covered in about 8" of sand.
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 Posted 05/27/2021  9:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list
I hate to burst everyone's bubble, but it's not a genuine coin, and not very old. What we have here is some synthetic "pirate treasure". It's a replica "piece of eight" that someone has buried on the beach (presumably as part of a "find the pirate treasure" game) and nobody found this one - until the OP came along with a metal detector, probably several years later.

Check out the pics of the coin in this old thread, which was found on a beach in the Bahamas. It's exactly the same shape, and the cross (what can be seen of it) has exactly the same dints and flaws in it. Cob coins don't have exactly the same shape, dints and flaws as each other.

Your coin is badly corroded because it's not made of silver, but some base-metal (pewter or some such) that was plated. You can see the plating peeling off on the edge shot.
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 Posted 05/27/2021  9:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list
Ok interesting. I can't find that earlier thread, but based on the location of finding, I'd keep it safe until you can get someone to determine the metal alloy.
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 Posted 05/27/2021  10:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add harrisiv to your friends list
Sap I appreciate your thoughtful response. I'm afraid I agree as it looks strikingly similar to the one in your referenced post. Won't throw it away, but glad to have some closure. Thank you to everyone who took the time to reply!
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 Posted 05/27/2021  11:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Albert to your friends list
A simple matter to answer some questions would be to know the SG.
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 Posted 05/28/2021  11:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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 Posted 06/01/2021  11:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add retiredkper to your friends list
Based on looks ; fake. Try to make a line with it on paper. If you can it has high lead content.
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 Posted 06/06/2021  7:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Oldfordman to your friends list
Get it scanned by a jewelry or bullion buyers place to determine metal
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 Posted 06/12/2021  05:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oriole to your friends list
Whatever you do, don't put it back on the beach! We might get a repeat in this forum in a few more years.
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 Posted 06/14/2021  10:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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 Posted 06/14/2021  11:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list
I thought it looked real but I was wrong. Good job SAP.
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