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Anybody Else Tracking Coins In MS Access?

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 Posted 01/29/2009  11:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ceaton to your friends list
You can send it to those needing it through email easily! Such as me :)
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 Posted 01/30/2009  02:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add QuickSilver to your friends list
Yes, probably the easiest way is to email. I don't think you can add attachments to the CCF internal email tho'

My email is leebreeze"you know the sign"hotmail.com
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 Posted 01/30/2009  08:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MArainman to your friends list
Give this a try:

http://www.visniewski.com/coins2009 **(No Zip Files Allowed)** - 2009 version (my version)
Saved down to other MS Access versions:
http://www.visniewski.com/coins2003 **(No Zip Files Allowed)** - 2003 version
http://www.visniewski.com/coins2000 **(No Zip Files Allowed)** - 2000 version

The ZIP contains the database and a sample image directory. As this is the first time I've used it outside my home computer, I've identified some issues.
1. You must enable macros via the security dialog that shows up when you open the database. If you don't, the images won't show up.
2. There must be an "images" directory in the same place as the database. Unzip the entire ZIP file preserving the directory structure and it'll work fine.
3. The images directory must contain the "blank.png" file for entrys without photos.
4. Scans of your coins must follow the format "xxx[O or R].png" where xxx is the inventory number of the coin, "O" is for obverse, "R" is for reverse. Currently, it only looks for PNG files because that's what I use.
5. It'll start up with an error saying it can't find a file. The database will work just fine but if you want to fix it, edit the entry form and change the default pointer for the obverse and reverse image. I have a script that changes the picture when you change records but the image placeholder itself needed an absolute path to an image to start with. Just point it to wherever your 1O and 1R photos are.
6. You may use the form to view your coins or the "Report by Country" query or report to view them sorted by country and denomination.

I think that's it. I never intended anyone else to use it so it might be a little funky to anyone else. Let me know if you have any improvements!
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 Posted 01/30/2009  6:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add QuickSilver to your friends list
Works good!

So now for the questions!

If I put all my scans in one folder and number them as you suggest will it automatically look up the next 2 numbers and place them in the next form?

How do you get it to do a drop down list of countries like that?

That'll do for starters :-)
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 Posted 01/30/2009  9:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MArainman to your friends list
QuickSilver: Yes, it should. As long as the photos follow the naming scheme and are in the "images" directory under the database file, it should work. You can make them any size you want. The program will shrink them down to 2x2 for the form. If you then double-click on the image, it'll open it up full size in whatever program you have designated to open PNG files in Windows.

The drop down menu was created by a wizard in Access. The program does it all for you. When you create a drop down list, it'll pop up and do all the background work. I added a little piece of visual basic code to add a confirmation dialog when you try to input a country that isn't in the list. That way, you won't accidentally create a duplicate misspelled country. Same goes for Composition. Other drop-downs like Condition don't allow for values that aren't in the list.

There aren't many options for sorting and presenting the data just yet. I hope to create reports for such things as "favorite" coins and precious medals. Plus, I want to put more search capabilities into the input form. For now, you can sort by any field by right-clicking inside it and selecting one of the sort options. You can also view it as a datasheet to see a listing.

It's a big work-in-progress.
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 Posted 01/31/2009  05:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add QuickSilver to your friends list
This is excellent, thanks very much.

All of my scans are jpegs. Is there a way to make it see those instead of pngs?

I have had a look at the tables that drive the fields on the form. I assume I can add more records to these tables as required?
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01/31/2009 05:13 am
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 Posted 01/31/2009  3:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MArainman to your friends list
You can erase my entrys, of course. I just put those few in so you'd have something to leaf through when you opened the database. My full database has almost 1000 records in it.

To change from PNG to JPG, enter into Access' visual basic editor. I forget how to do it in versions below 2009. In 2009, it's in the "Database Tools" ribbon, far left button. From there, you should see code. If not, make sure you've got the "Form_Coins" selected in the left-hand sidebar. Do a Search & Replace from the Edit menu. Replace "PNG" with "JPG" except for the pointers to "blank.png". Don't do a Replace All. Search through them one-by-one. I think there's 5 or 6.

Let me know if you have any more questions. I've been inspired to come up with a Version 2.0.
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 Posted 02/01/2009  3:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add QuickSilver to your friends list
Got it up and running pretty well. Have created a new table from my excel spreadsheet and changed the form layout to suit.

Found the code and changed it to jpg and removed the "O" and "R" then I added a couple of columns to my table for obverse and reverse scan numbers which made it easier to rename my greater than 5000 scans.

I couldn't see a quick way to do it otherwise.

Thanks a bunch! I will try to get learning how to do reports and such next.
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 Posted 02/24/2009  3:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add schmidty to your friends list
MArainman,

Thanks for the DB. It's great! Back a while ago, I started to create one myself. But, having NO experience, it proved to be a little difficult to teach myself how to do it. You have given me a big "jump-start".

This thread has given me a somewhat grandiose idea! I don't know how many of you are familiar with the "MyNumisMaster" area of NumisMaster.com? They have an area for members to enter all their coins. It is basically an online database for your coins.

Would anyone be interested in re-creating something similar in Access (or the free OpenOffice)? It would basically be an expansion of the DB that MArainman so generously shared.

Here's how I imagine it working. Members each take an area of the DB, and set it up. When everyone has completed their "area" we create one complete database? I don't know how it would all work. I suppose one person would have to be the "foreman" and be in charge of compiling all the individual components into one final product. Those who wanted to help, but had no experience in Access (like me) could do the tedious (yet necessary) data entry, and those with experience could do more of the advanced aspects.

Once completed, maybe it could be used as an incentive/"thank you" gift for members that hit 50 quality posts? If enough people were interested, we could ask the forum Mom and Dad for permission and ideas on how to make it work. (or why it won't work)

What do you all think?
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 Posted 02/24/2009  3:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add QuickSilver to your friends list
I think it would be difficult to develop a format that everyone liked. The beauty of Access over other pre-packaged software is the ability to tailor it to ones own tastes and needs.

Are you talking about a reference type database with generic photos of coins, or one designed for individual collections?

Would this be just for US coins?
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 Posted 02/24/2009  3:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add QuickSilver to your friends list
I love the idea of it but I am not sure about the execution.
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 Posted 02/24/2009  4:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add schmidty to your friends list
One designed for individual collectors. You enter an actual photo of your coin when you enter it into the database.

Where appropriate, you would chose from a list of pre-entered data. It would have tables containing info like country name, denomination, coin grade, composition, size, shape, edge type, etc. It would also have blank entry boxes for info like designer, weight, KM or Y number, etc. You could also have check boxes for "need to upgrade", "for sale", etc.

I would also like to see something like "Sub-Country". For example, you first choose Germany, then in a "Sub-Country" drop down box, you would choose Third Reich or Federal Republic.

Again, I am getting all of this from NumisMasters web-site. IMO, it has a very complete set of options for inventorying your coins.


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I think it would be difficult to develop a format that everyone liked. The beauty of Access over other pre-packaged software is the ability to tailor it to ones own tastes and needs.

I agree. We could have many options for data entry, and users could just ignore the ones they didn't want to use. Or, users who understand Access can even just delete the options that they don't care to use.
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02/24/2009 6:39 pm
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 Posted 02/24/2009  6:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add QuickSilver to your friends list
I think first you would need an MS Access expert to design it. I would be willing to do some of the entries.

I think you should start a new thread to gauge interest and no. of participants.

For speed of entry it would need to have all of the info that does not vary for each coin type and year. With a minimal no. of drop down boxes for things like grade.

I am not sure how large a file it would be once it stores all the info about every coin type, year, mintmark etc. But I think it would be an amazing worthwhile project.

While there are already similar things for US coins I don't know that there is anything like it for world coins.

I have heard exact-change mentioned before, as being very good but I do not know if it comes close to having this sort of info on every coin type.

The other big question is scope. How far do you go back? Maybe you have add-ons by century?

Perhaps this might be a way for CCF to make some income? If we as members donate our time etc to create it, CCF could sell it for a small fee to generate what I am sure are much needed funds.

The ability to add your own photos, quickly and easily is paramount. And a box to add your own notes about each coin.

Another question is photos already in the database. Do you attempt to include example pics of each coin? While a great idea it might be too daunting. Where would you even get pics of every coin? And the permission to use them foc.

We may be getting ahead of ourselves I think this will take a lot of planning, but I'm already quite excited.
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 Posted 02/24/2009  6:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add schmidty to your friends list
I'm glad to hear your enthusiasm QuickSilver. I was a little wary about my idea. I wasn't sure how it would be received. So far so good!

I also agree about starting another thread. Do you think I should start it in the "Software" section, or maybe in the "General Numismatics" area to get maximum exposure?

I was going to reply to your other points, but I will wait until we start a new thread. I will do that ASAP (time to go eat, now!)
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 Posted 02/24/2009  6:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add QuickSilver to your friends list
OK I am off to bed, I will look for your new thread in the AM.

Probably the software forum. Also it sounds as though the OP on this thread might be a bit of an MS Access whiz, so a PM to them re: the feasability of a project such as this might be useful.

Regards.
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