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1881-CC Gold Half Eagle

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 Posted 02/09/2022  7:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fortcollins to your friends list
There are signs of an old rubbing or surface cleaning, but it looks market acceptable. There is more luster than I would expect in the protected areas for VF-35.

On the obverse, the detail in the hair, in the bun, and in the curls behind the ear suggest EF-40. On the reverse, the wing tips, inner feathers, and shield verticals also suggest EF-40.

This coin sure seems to be right on the line for EF-40. Others may well see it differently, but balancing the soft strike with the luster in the protected areas seems to me to be enough to get it across the line for EF-40.

Very nice coin.
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 Posted 02/09/2022  10:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Paul Bulgerin to your friends list
fortcollins,

Thank you for your thoughtful analysis of the coin's grade. When the time comes for him, or his family, to decide on what to do with this coin, I think it would be a wise thing to have it graded by PCGS or NGC since it could be quite valuable.
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 Posted 02/09/2022  11:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jaobler to your friends list
Quite a lot of wear, apparently more on the reverse (which could be partly strike-related). Obverse shows parallel hairline scratches from some kind of cleaning but eye appeal is still pretty good. At this level of wear it's likely to grade problem-free. VF-35 seems fair.

Definitely needs to be slabbed. PCGS would be my first choice. This is a rare and desirable coin.
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 Posted 02/10/2022  12:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jacrispies to your friends list
I think it is close tie between VF-35 and XF-40, but I am leaning toward VF-35 because of the possible wipe/cleaning. CC gold is something you don't see every day!
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 Posted 02/10/2022  05:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsearcher to your friends list
I'm not qualified to offer a grade opinion - defer to the comments by experts such as fortcollins whose stated views resonate well with me.

I am qualified to say that this is a rare and desirable coin and I'm pleased that you showed it to us. Fully concur that when this example is brought to the market it should be housed in a top tier TPG holder.
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 Posted 02/10/2022  07:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pristine2 to your friends list
I'm afraid I lean a bit lower toward VF-30. While I cannot be sure without putting it under a scope, I also think it could possibly detail as wiped or cleaned.

Something is not quite right on the reverse. If the grader calls it pocket friction, he'll grade it straight. But even if it does detail, no problem. The market is tolerant of minor surface interventions on low-mintage gold, and any buyer would feel lucky to acquire this. It is an absolutely delicious and very desirable coin, difficult to source.

You can ignore the price guides. Even if details, I think you can safely assume at least a $1000 premium to greysheet value, or more depending on the timing of the sale.
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 Posted 02/10/2022  10:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list
i have her at a solid VF30 and very close to 35. I dont see it pulling XF though. still a nice piece. any way you look at it its a $3-4k piece and worth grading.
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 Posted 02/10/2022  11:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list
35/40 It might get a details for a cleaning as there are hairlines.
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 Posted 02/10/2022  3:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add luvmyCAM to your friends list
Thank you for sharing this rare coin on the forum nice very nice. Out of my league will defer further comment.
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 Posted 02/10/2022  8:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Paul Bulgerin to your friends list
Thanks for the responses. It will be up to my father-in-law and my sister-in-law, who is his executor, to decide what to do with the coins.

There is also an 1881 half eagle, an 1851 $1.00 gold piece and a 1912 and 1913 Indian guarter eagle. They are all in circulated condition.
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 Posted 02/11/2022  09:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list

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It will be up to my father-in-law and my sister-in-law


I'm sure you input will help them make the best decision especially since you have a collective grade now

p.s. I think the coin grades straight
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 Posted 02/11/2022  10:10 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list
I am at VF30 on this wonderful example of CC gold.
Thank you for sharing!

P.S. PCGS ;-)
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 Posted 02/15/2022  7:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fenton to your friends list
I'll say EF-40. Fantastic example.
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 Posted 03/15/2022  1:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list
Nice original EF-40.
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 Posted 03/15/2022  1:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wallyb to your friends list
Very nice coin and will make a great addition to someone's collection down the road. For me it probably won't great straight, given the evidence of cleaning, but could go as high as EF40. Look forward to seeing what a TPG has to say.
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