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Pillar of the Community
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I've found a few on cents. I call them 1/2% clips.
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@coinfrog not rim damage. These minor clips leave a slight weakness around the rim because the blank's diameter is too narrow for the protorim to be upset, which gives it the very typical softness on both sides that you see here, exactly like in the image Coop posted.
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@ Sam, minor clips? Where on the OP coin the diameter was touch? We start to invent? All COOP photos show legitim clips, observe the sides, the rims, the strike. This coin is hit coin, any structural test will confirm.
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No clue what you mean, @silviosi, but this is absolutely a clipped planchet. It's impossible to flatten the rim like that without displacing the metal, which would take the coin out of round.
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@Sam. The clips come from cutting planchet. This on OP coin is a hit from outside to inside the coin, so the diameter will not be affected. Side photos will confirm this. This it is not a curved clip, is far from.
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@silviosi if it were hit on the outside in, metal would be displaced inwards. When a clip is extremely small like this, the pressure from the strike actually forces material outwards into the negative space left by the clip until it reaches the collar die, so you will only see the clip in the lack of a protorim as we see here.
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02/16/2022 8:10 pm
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I think I see both arguments here. If this one done early in the coins life it could easily have worn to look more smooth. A shot of the rim where it happened might show something. The rim on the reverse is much thinner then the rim in the obverse but the reverse rim still seems to be more intact. Idk about this one I'm going to say PMD. |
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 @SamCoin, Nice one! My wife got me in the habit of calling these "nibbles." |
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It seems to me that it is a very small clip.
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Sorry I am late on this. If it is a clip is before strike and COOP explain well will be tappers near the rim. We do not have this. We look at the rim, look at the no 4 and near under the neck, show this coin was hit. Never a clip will be like this. If a clip is present due to the collar, near will be tapered.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Am I just tired or do the mushy letters on the REV in the same area hint at PMD? How much squash could a Sasquatch squash if a Sasquatch would squash squash? Download and read: Grading the graders Costly TPG ineptitude and No FG Kennedy halveshttps://ln5.sync.com/dl/7ca91bdd0/w...i3b-rbj9fir2 |
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@Earle42 mushy letters are diagnostic of clips as the negative space left by the missing material and lack of a protorim often causes strike weakness in the immediate area around the clip. Here's a link to an example of a slightly more major clip I found on google images that demonstrates this nicely https://coins.thefuntimesguide.com/...planchet.jpgEdited by SamCoin
02/17/2022 12:34 am
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Thanks!
How much squash could a Sasquatch squash if a Sasquatch would squash squash? Download and read: Grading the graders Costly TPG ineptitude and No FG Kennedy halveshttps://ln5.sync.com/dl/7ca91bdd0/w...i3b-rbj9fir2 |
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Enough of the metal moved in to form an edge, but not enough to form the devices. Thus the weakness on that area of the strike. If it were a proof coin and was struck twice, the devices would have probably look normal after the second strike. But business strike cents only get on strike. The missing clipped area would probably be very small on this coin. Seen an edge of the coin on that area would be nice to see?
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