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1895 $1 Morgan Silver Dollar

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 Posted 03/24/2022  6:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list
You could have posted new photos without revealing the grade for the standard 2 days.

For a superb gem proof, the new photos show really poorly struck hair on liberty. I wish that I could get NGC to give my coins superb gem grades for my poorly struck, marked up coins. I also wouldn't say that the toning adds to the eye appeal.
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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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Edited by numismatic student
03/24/2022 6:59 pm
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 Posted 03/24/2022  6:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jakes Coins to your friends list
Wow thats graded high...
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 Posted 03/24/2022  7:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list
Heritage photos always look jacked up with weird lighting. The in-holder photos in the same ha listing are more true and look similar to the original post. One of the most banged-up superb gems that I have encountered.

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1895-$1-Morgan-Silver-Dollar
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS
THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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Edited by numismatic student
03/24/2022 7:18 pm
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My apologies for revealing the grade. I was more concentrated on showing a different view. All the best.
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 Posted 03/24/2022  7:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list
The coin toning does not look natural, and maybe now the coin is turning darker in the holder. With the coin getting a 67, there is some insider stuff going on.

The TPG's really make the hobby challenging with good old boys club grading, approving what is NT and AT and grade inflation. The TPG's have a financial incentive to inflate grades as it creates crack outs of the older holders to be resubmitted for grading.
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 Posted 03/24/2022  7:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam590 to your friends list
I have noticed that my PCGS graded coins that were in Heritage or Stacks and Bowers auctions tend to be the most liberally graded coins I have. I have an 1814 dime in an AU(55) holder that is nice, but has some weird small scratches on the reverse that is both straight graded and CACed. I love the coin, and I bought it knowing what it is--but I have to suspect that TPG and CAC both seem more likely to look kindly on coins when auction houses submit them.
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Waste of time trying to evaluate this coin from the images originally provided. Total waste of time. I'll try to be more careful in the future.
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03/24/2022 8:08 pm
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Waste of time trying to evaluate this coin from the images originally provided. Total waste of time. I'll try to be more careful in the future.


I have to agree.....
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 Posted 03/25/2022  2:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pristine2 to your friends list
I'm at PR61. Just can't see how a coin with so many abrasions can be even MS 65, much less 67.
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03/25/2022 2:37 pm
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That's no 67. It's a space station . . .
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 Posted 03/29/2022  8:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list
That's one of the least attractive, most overgraded 1895 Morgans I've ever seen.

TPG should be super embarrassed and downright ashamed. This is insulting to Morgan dollar collectors and to the market and numismatic hobby as a whole.

I'm sure it will be sold to some rich investor who doesn't know jack about coins, but trusts 100% whatever the slab says, and then the TPG's will use that in their advertising about record-breaking sales. Every time one of these clunkers sells for big bucks, it pushes prices higher by setting a new "market price."
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Dog for sure, but the kennel is small.
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Nobody has to believe the grade. Did the sale price reflect the "true" grade? Would the buyer have paid any less had the grade on the slab been PR61?
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