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1820 Capped Bust Dime "Statesof" Variety

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 Posted 05/15/2023  7:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list
nice statedof capped dime, the last one in your hand does not appear to be one, but is a very nice coin, however, you should not hold your old silver coins like that. you will get oil and acids from your skin on it and potentially mar the surface with prints.
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 Posted 05/15/2023  7:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Lost track of all the different dimes in this thread.
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 Posted 05/15/2023  10:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DoctorBurnzy to your friends list
@Dearborn All the photos of the 3 coins are the seller's photos. I was pleasantly surprised with the toner. It only shows some color at tilted angles. @Coinfrog...the post did ask for any other neat bust dimes. I consider the 1822 capped bust dime to be very neat...maybe uber neat. Lol. But, I have to admit the 1822 is not a variety.
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 Posted 05/15/2023  10:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list
ah, ok, didn't know that (did I miss that detail up above?) thanks for clarification. that last photo just looks to good to b an ebay image.
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 Posted 05/15/2023  10:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DoctorBurnzy to your friends list
@ Dearborn. The actual coin is dark and only when tilted gives off a brighter orange color, but at no point is the whole coin giving off a reflectance of bright orange colors when tilted. That photo was manipulated a bit, but I actually like the coin better as is.
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 Posted 05/16/2023  04:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GERMANICVS to your friends list
Doctor, those are some very nice dime additions to your collection!

The 1820 StatesOF, JR-1, (R-3) seems quite nice based on the pictures you posted. It shares the same reverse with the 1814 StatesOF which the OP posted. I wonder what it will look like in-hand.

Your 1821 is indeed a JR-6 (R-2). The 1 is high in the date as well as the second S in States.

The 1822, JR-1, (R-3+) you posted is VERY appealing! As you know, most 1822s are in grades of VG or lower, BUT in some way impaired - damaged or cleaned. Your is a nice exception. Congratulations.
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 Posted 05/16/2023  08:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DoctorBurnzy to your friends list
Thank you, GERMANICVS. I will be updating my spreadsheets with the rarity information you provided. I will try and have a friend snap a couple of photos of the 1820 "statesof" variety in-hand. The seller's photos weren't the best. I had been looking at a handful of VG 10s/VG08....even lower graded in the last 2 years coming to market in auctions and for sale on sites. I didn't find one I really liked, i.e., impaired/damaged as you expressed until I accidentally came across this one a month ago set for auction.
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 Posted 05/16/2023  12:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GERMANICVS to your friends list
Doctor, I am surprised the Bust Dime ID Guide has become difficult to obtain. You could try to contact Winston Zack directly. He posts in a few Facebook Coin groups. I am sure he will help you if he has a copy to spare. Nice guy.

Yep, the 1822 is THE bust dime many early dime collectors are looking for. Not that many to go around, though. The other in great demand is the 1809. I remember a time around 10-12 years ago, 1809s were impossible to find.
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 Posted 05/16/2023  12:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DoctorBurnzy to your friends list
I knew about the Early United States Dimes book for some time but wasn't aware of Bust Dime Variety ID Guide until rather recently. I will look for Winston Zack in the John Reich Facebook group.
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 Posted 05/21/2023  3:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add HondoB to your friends list
This one appears to be a statesof variety. My early bid of $20 does not appear to be in contention.
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 Posted 05/21/2023  8:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DoctorBurnzy to your friends list
Here are the photos for my 1820 "statesof" variety. There's a light scratch seen on an angle. W. Zach didn't have an extra copy of the book, but pointed me in the direction of someone who did. It's in the mail.
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 Posted 06/25/2023  9:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DoctorBurnzy to your friends list
Winston Zach was able to point me in the right direction to find a copy of the Bust Dime Variety ID Guide. In the last few weeks, I've been delving into the coin series. I picked up a handful this weekend but mainly at the closing of the GreatCollection weekly auctions an hour ago but will show just a few. The first is a details coin though and the second a low grade...but both hard to find: 1821 Lg Date 10c - rarity 5 and a 1833 10c AG3 -rarity 5+.
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 Posted 06/25/2023  9:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DoctorBurnzy to your friends list
and the 3rd an 1833 F-12 with a little color.
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 Posted 06/30/2023  03:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GERMANICVS to your friends list
I am glad Winston Zach was able to help you. He is very knowledgeable and of course, he is a co-author of the Dime ID Guide.

Your collection seems to be growing quite nicely and you are finding some nice varieties like that 1821 JR-2.

1821 Jr-2 is quite scarce at R-5. The vast majority of the examples I have seen are in low grades. If I may, let me show you this JR-2 which I had lying around in a low grade miscellaneous coin tray for over 20 years before realising what it was. It was a nice surprise. The weakness at the tip of the bust is typical of 1821 JR-2.



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