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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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 To the Forum.
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New Member
 United States
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Thank you for the welcome!  This is the first coin forum I am posting to after collecting coins for 4ish years now. Working front end in a grocery store helps! My first one really was a 1896 Morgan I got for $1! OK! Fun stuff!  So I was able to find a Third roll of these coins in the Customer Service collection of rolls, another clean Loomis roll of quarters. I took photos of the ends, opening, and it's dispersion of coins. Here is the list. I will post photos after I post this so I don't forget. I have the coins laid out in front of me. P 2018 Voyagers x7, 2018 Cumberland Island x4, 2019 Lowell x2, 2022 Maya Anjelou x2 D 2017 Ellis Island X2, 2018 Voyagers, 2018 Cumberland Island x2, 2018 Apostle Island x7 S 2017 Ellis Island, 2017 George Rogers Clark x6, 2018 Pictured Rocks, 2018 Apostle Island x3, 2018 Block Island x2 The main oddity that makes these soo special is that there's P, D, and S in the wrapper, and mixed with a few 2021 and 2022 coins, being that coin distribution is soo naturally regionally seperated. It is a treat to find all three mints in one wrapper, especially since the D and S mints are soo polished that they seem to come from special dies. Given that two rolls were perfectly 2017/2018/2019 with a few 2021/2022 mixed in, the question now becomes:  Did the Mint just pull from stored coins in stock and mix them all up, or did they employ those saved dies and press new blanks?
Edited by TomH 05/03/2022 04:15 am
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New Member
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These are all from the roll I opened on May 2nd, cataloged above. If you want me to post the few photos I have from the rolls and coins collected in April 30th and May 1st, let me know. While at the store with multiple light sources I took this photo to demonstrate the polish shine vs, the dingy circulated Texas quarter end.  Here it starts. It was this end that closed the full wrapper as this D coin had the circular scrape from the wrapping machine, though quite faint.  Here you can see some of the coins as they came out from the Loomis wrapper. Beautiful new shine, especially indicative of special dies. Almost no marks on surfaces, and very few bag marks too.  Here is the Layout of the coins with P, D, and S, and the number of types in group. (I just noticed this photo is upside down)  An example with a 2022 Maya to show S mark and edge. Not great quality images of these.   The opened wrapper to show original end wrapping on far end.  Each in it's own safe zip bag. 
Edited by TomH 05/03/2022 04:36 am
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 United States
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Nice assortment of Quarters for sure. First off, are the little bags PVC Free? If not, I would suggest placing them into better containment packages. (PVC will ruin your coins over time) Quote: the question now becomes: Did the Mint just pull from stored coins in stock and mix them all up, or did they employ those saved dies and press new blanks? The mint itself would not hold or mix up coins from different Mint locations (as far as I know) My guess is that Loomis had collected the coins from different banks from all over the country, brought to a central holding facility then re packaged into their own (Loomis) paper rolls for re-distribution. That is where I would think that all the different mint coins got mixed up and blended together into one roll as you found them - just my opinion here - maybe a guess or two added in for good measure.
Edited by Dearborn 05/03/2022 08:36 am
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Definitely looks like a collection dump. I doubt the collector himself dumped them because they would probably have pulled the S mint coins. The S mint coins can be sold at a premium. So it was probably either a stolen collection or dumped by a non-collector who inherited or was given the collection.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Welcome to CC!
Agree with others, a dump by a collector, dealer or thief. My LCS doesn't want to mess with low-value common stuff so he routinely dumps stuff back into circulation.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Were there any coins older than 2017 in the rolls? Even if it was a collection dump (which remains my theory) I'd find it hard to believe the coins wouldn't be mixed with random other coins as they were being rolled.
Unless it was an absolutely massive collection.
Or the other random coins mixed in are the new 2022s
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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That's awesome! Must have been a large collector dump, theft, dealer. The rolls are tight and original looking so for them all to wind up together in a roll means a large quantity of coins were sent through the rolling machine together. Definitely a rare find in circulation rolls.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Nice find, check for any errors and varieties.
I wouldn't store them in ziploc bags.
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New Member
 United States
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It is just those three years, 17, 18, 19, and then the rare 21 and 22. I'll keep my eye out for other rolls and keep gathering them as I can. T'was just a surprise to see high polished S's come out of rolls so nice and clean. Perhaps just a collection dump, which is sad sort of, but hey, I'll help find them a new home.
I do have I think 1000 coin flips in a box I need to transfer a lot of my coins to. One day when I feel like diving into it I chall set up a production line of sorts.
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Pillar of the Community
Russian Federation
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Do I understand correctly that my coins with the letter S should not have been in rolls since these coins were intended for collectors? I always thought that the letter S only happens on Proof coins.
Loowis is a private company, right? Are private companies engaged in the distribution of mint products ?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Quote: Loowis is a private company, right? Loomis is one of several private companies contracted by Federal Reserve Banks, local banks and local companies to securely handle cash distributions and deposit pickups. They handle both rolled coins and currency. They are not affiliated with the Treasury Department, Bureau of Engraving and Printing or the US Mint.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Quote: Are private companies engaged in the distribution of mint products ? Private companies usually buy unwanted mint products from the public and resell them on-line or out of their storefronts. This is commonly referred to as a secondary market. There are some well-capitalized large coin dealers and bullion companies that can buy some mint products in bulk from the US Mint and market them as they see fit. It can be a sore spot in the case of limited product issues.
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Valued Member
United States
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I am quitting my retirement and going to start bagging groceries or work the cash register. That is a nice find. Even If I go to my bank, they wouldn't give me any coin rolls. I can't stand the bank I use. "Oh we don't have any rolls of coins", they lie.
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Valued Member
United States
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Nice finds. As has been stated the ones of greatest value are the San Fran (S) Quarters in Uncirculated (or very high Almost Uncirculated) condition. These do well on ebay and it is perplexing that some dealers don't bother with them. Interest in S quarters has skyrocketed with the American Women Quarters but I think collectors were realizing the S quarters were worth searching forth and maybe purchasing from the US Mint. Why would you ask? Well the S mint Quarters were issed as NIFC - not intended for circulation but COULD be used for purchases. The mintages are half or a little more than half the W Quarters that were available ONLY in circulation. Because you coudl NOT get the W Quarters from the Mint and only from circulation many were hoarded or flipped. My opinion is for the Uncirculated S -- if you have only a few keep them, if you ever come upon more than a roll, find some of the nicest ones and spend the rest. You will be doing yourself and fellow collectors a favor. By spending them you reduce the population of uncirculated quarters and increase the scarcity of uncirculated ones while allowing collectors a chance at finding one hopefully in high AU. One curiosity of NIFC coins is that they can be rare in circulated condition but only a little uncommon in uncirculated condition. For example, I have found in circulation only one S business strike America the Beautiful Quarter in low XF condition. I have found many more P and D uncirculated condition Quarters. Note that the US Mint does NOT include some NIFC coins in their annual uncirculated sets: American Innovation Dollars (P and D) and S Mint Quarters. They also do NOT do what some world mints such as the UK's Royal Mint does, offer a higher priced set with that year's commemorative coins that may not be put in circulation. For this reason, US Uncirculated set mintages have been falling overall - sales have only increased when a bonus coin has been offered and it is the sets with the bonus coin that have a nice premium in the secondary market. Again, I do think some collectors realize this as you can see how the 2018 Uncirculated set doesn't show up often on ebay. Dealers with ample stocks may have it but as the 2018 Unc set had the lowest mintage in recent times (possibly the 2020 too as there was a mintage limit on it).
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