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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I only buy or even think of buying a coin that I need, not want.
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Moderator
 United States
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When I find something online or at a coin show I make a note, then walk away. When I feel that pull in my gut I go back. Sometimes that pull is an offer from the seller I can (should) not refuse. 
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Pillar of the Community
 Russian Federation
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I wonder how you colleagues stop yourself from rash purchases. For example, I clicked "place a bet" several times, and later asked myself why I did it. But it happened even worse when I still won a coin, paid, received, and after a while I did not understand why I bought it because it only takes up space, requires money for proper storage and much more and I had to sell. Sometimes (often) the desire to quickly get rid of unnecessary junk prompted me to sell everything at auction for a song.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Quote: I wonder how you colleagues stop yourself from rash purchases. I've never been an impulsive person, so I never had any problem with making rash purchases until I started using Heritage Auctions over 7 years ago and would watch the online auction. Watching the auction I'd get caught up in the action a bit. More than once, I hit the "bid" button because I thought the coin was a bargain even though it wasn't anything I needed, and though I'd not done the proper research on that particular item prior to the auction. Usually I'd find out afterwards why the coin was going for a "bargain" price, and I'd end up with something I didn't really want and eventually would sell for a loss. Now, I only bid on items I've researched and have on my want list, and put in my maximum bid prior to the auction. I will still occasionally watch the online auctions, especially the ones at major shows, but now turn off the bid button and keep my hands away from the keyboard until my items come up!  On the flip side, I've missed out on some really nice coins with some online dealers and at coin shows because I went and thought about it for a while, then once I decided I wanted it I found it had already sold  . I still prefer the chance of that happening than being nagged with buyers remorse...
Member of SPMC, FCCB, ANA and ANS. My U.S. Classic Commemorative Complete Set: https://www.NGCcoin.com/registry/co...sets/278741/My U.S. Fractional Note Set: https://notes.www.collectors-societ...eSetID=34188
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
21788 Posts |
I am attempting to build an OFEC collection One From every Century every Culture across the whole of numismatics.
Thus, I will buy a coin on it's own merits in isolation, provided that it is good value for money at the time of purchase. Extensive experience of decades helps. Nevertheless, my learning curve is still steep. In short, I will buy any coin that has numismatic merit, and is excellent value for money
In my experience, bargains are easier to find with this sort of strategy. The whole of numismatics is opened up for you. This sort of collecting philosophy prevents one from being an investor, with a view to selling any coin later on, at a profit. This has been my approach to collecting for perhaps 50 years or more.
Edited by sel_69l 05/10/2022 04:15 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
7293 Posts |
I think we all do rash purchases. It's part of collecting. But like a few posters I decide the coin I'm going to get a few days before I buy it. I then check locally (1st choice), my preferred internet dealers and finally ebay ( ebay is usually the last choice). I then compare prices/quality. Many times I don't buy the cheapest. As to rash purchases, as an example I once went to my local coin shop to get some silver ( ASE or Maple leafs), he had a nice 1923 Peace dollar in an old green holder at a great price. I purchased the Peace dollar instead of getting the other silver. Just recently I made bids on 4 silver womens quarters in PF69, hoping to just win 1, I ended up getting 3 for below my maximum bid of $15.72 which was lower than the US Mint cost. Did I need 3, no but at the price if I won all 4, I would have been fine. As of today I can sell the extra for a small profit. So my advice is make a list of your goals, stick to those goals and buy what you like. If you find a good deal don't be afraid to jump on it as long as it fits in with your collection.
Edited by hfjacinto 05/10/2022 08:35 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
7293 Posts |
The other piece of advice is to avoid temptation. This forum is really bad for finding eye candy. For example I look at Dr. Burnzy's IHC and I want a few. And don't click on Hokies registry set. Think of this place as a Girl Scout selling cookies at a pot convention. If you aren't hungry don't look at all the eye candy.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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For me it comes down to how long I have been hunting a particular coin for as well as knowing the coins thoroughly.
There have been times when I looked at some coins for less than 1 minute and just bought them. Most of them have been no regrets because I know what I am after. Just recently I purchased a coin that I have been looking for the last decade and I couldn't pull my card out quick enough. Mind you, it's definitely on the top ten coins of the most expensive purchases I made. That said, I know that it's a fair price and it doesn't appear very often.
My partial coin collection http://www.omnicoin.com/collection/gxseriesMy numismatics articles and collection: http://www.gxseries.com/numis/numis_index.htmRegularly updated at least once a month.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Quote: I wonder how you colleagues stop yourself from rash purchases. For example, I clicked "place a bet" several times, and later asked myself why I did it. But it happened even worse when I still won a coin, paid, received, and after a while I did not understand why I bought it because it only takes up space, requires money for proper storage and much more and I had to sell. Sometimes (often) the desire to quickly get rid of unnecessary junk prompted me to sell everything at auction for a song. You have to set collecting goals and a budget. Do your homework on the value of what you are about to purchase and do not overpay. I have purchased and sold a lot of coins. When I lost money on a coin, it almost always came down to paying to much for the coin.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Quote: If you aren't hungry don't look at all the eye candy. Great life lesson in general. Except going to the grocery store on an empty stomach. NOT a good idea!!
Suffering from bust half fever. Want to learn how to attribute early half dollars by die variety? Click Here: http://goccf.com/t/434955Shoot me a PM if you are looking to sell bust halves.
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Valued Member
United States
357 Posts |
While there are times I will try to work on one set/project at a time, usually I bounce all around and buy what I happen to find a good deal on that catches my eye, regardless of if I'm actively working on that set or not. Once I came across a Buffalo nickel with such incredible eye appeal, that I had to snatch it up for my type set even though I already had one and had no desire to upgrade at that time. It was a later date in MS65, so nothing special in terms of its value, but I had never seen a Buffalo nickel in person with such eye appeal, and I just couldn't pass it up. A big part of why I bought it was that the price was right, but even if I had to spend a little extra I would have simply because it jumped out at me. It's actually the only coin I've ever bought where I thought I might actually resubmit it someday in terms of truly believing it could actually get a higher grade as opposed to really hoping it would.
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Pillar of the Community
 Russian Federation
1557 Posts |
Thank you for your advice. I really should make a list of the coins I need to complete my sets and not look back at the huge variety of merchants' assortment. And as many of you have already said, determine the boundaries of the budget.
Do you look at the lots sold when determining the price of a coin ?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
7293 Posts |
Slerk, I only collect 2 different series, basically US coins and coins from Portugal. For US coins I use Grey Sheet (it's a dealer pricing guide), I use that price as a starting point. Last year it's almost impossible to find coins at greysheet, so I use the price guides/eBay sold/PCGS prices to try and figure out what is fair and sometimes still pay over as that is the way the market is currently. If it's crazy over I just pass. Setting up searches on the places you shop helps to keep the prices reasonable. For Portuguese coins there isn't a good price guide or a fair comparison using ebay sold sometimes so I pay usually what a dealer asks or try to negotiate a % discount. Also most Portuguese coins are under the price I worry about (usually $20 for none precious metals and $35 for silver) that I just don't worry too much on the price. It's not significant enough to worry too much.
Edited by hfjacinto 05/14/2022 10:39 pm
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
3663 Posts |
@Slerk, everyone does it a bit differently, but I do have (and keep updated) a few "want lists" for the holes in my primary sets, with grades I desire and an estimated price range. Recent auction sales are a resource I use on pricing, as well as other regularly-updated pricing references (however, as hfjacinto mentioned, the Greysheet and other wholesale/retail price guides seem to be having trouble keeping up with the market recently).
I can't say I stick with my want lists 100% of the time; sometimes something exceptional comes along that I just can't pass up on. But I rarely purchase anything I don't actually need for my collection, and I try not to purchase things at a lower grade than I've set on my want list as that could mean I'll be looking for an upgrade down the road.
Budgeting is always something to keep in mind, as with any type of expenditures. Just good practice, no matter your income level.
I can still spend hours drooling over displays at coin shows and looking at dealers' online inventories, thinking "what if?", but when I pull out the wallet it's for something I really need.
Member of SPMC, FCCB, ANA and ANS. My U.S. Classic Commemorative Complete Set: https://www.NGCcoin.com/registry/co...sets/278741/My U.S. Fractional Note Set: https://notes.www.collectors-societ...eSetID=34188
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Quote: Do you look at the lots sold when determining the price of a coin ? Almost always. I haven't learned how to be consistent with any price guide, because they change all of the time. ebay is quick, easy, and accurate as long as you know what you're doing. Although most of my purchases are impulse buys, coins that are meant for resale, I do still make a "ten coins to buy this year" list. Those are usually pricey ones, and ones I plan to save up for throughout the year. I pick up a lot of other coins throughout the year as well. Quote: I can't say I stick with my want lists 100% of the time; sometimes something exceptional comes along that I just can't pass up on. But I rarely purchase anything I don't actually need for my collection, and I try not to purchase things at a lower grade than I've set on my want list as that could mean I'll be looking for an upgrade down the road. That's the thrill of the hunt, you never know what exceptional coin will come tomorrow. All you can do is prepare yourself with knowledge and availability so you can buy that coin. Adding unexpected coins to the collection is good, it keeps things fresh and you have some new knowledge or coin slot filled that would be empty otherwise. Quote: I can still spend hours drooling over displays at coin shows and looking at dealers' online inventories, thinking "what if?", but when I pull out the wallet it's for something I really need. Two and a half years ago, I was drooling over one single 1921 Morgan dollar. Seated and bust coinage was unfathomable and unobtainable, too old and expensive. Gold was a pipe dream. As a sophmore in high school, I started buying and selling coins, saving up, and purchasing coins that I really wanted. I was going to over 60 garage sales per saturday and ask for coins. I went from drooling over that single 1921 morgan to having coins like draped bust large cents, AU capped bust halves, and pre 33 gold pieces. All of which were earned through putting time in and getting coins in return. Some may say I got all of these for "free". It goes to show, if you want something spectacular, you can make it happen.
Suffering from bust half fever. Want to learn how to attribute early half dollars by die variety? Click Here: http://goccf.com/t/434955Shoot me a PM if you are looking to sell bust halves.
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