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What's Going On With The Scribbles On This 1942 S 5c? Over-Zealous Polishing?

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 Posted 06/12/2022  2:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AlexDC to your friends list
@nick10 And yes sorry, they are raised.
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 Posted 06/12/2022  2:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
But die scratches can't happen on the deepest parts of the die. I feel these are all coin scratches from a coin cleaning. A closer view of the will show they are incuse and the light is reflecting off of the incuse scratch marks.
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Note how the light reflects differently on the raised and incuse devices. (The opposite side reflects)
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 Posted 06/12/2022  2:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BuffaloIronTail to your friends list
Looks like post-mint damage to me.

What did PCGS say about it?

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 Posted 06/12/2022  3:41 pm  Show Profile   Check Tanman2001's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Tanman2001 to your friends list
PCGS would have definitely said something if these are post-mint scratches.

This looks to be heavy die polishing to me. There looks to be a second polishing, based on the lighter north-to-south scratches on the left side of the reverse, which likely got rid of much of the heavy polishing lines in the fields (but definitely not all of them!) while leaving the ones on the building.
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 Posted 06/12/2022  4:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list
I'd love to view the coin in-hand. Of course, that won't be happening. This is an interesting piece.
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 Posted 06/12/2022  5:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AlexDC to your friends list

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Here are some more pictures, wish they could be better. As Tanman2001 said there are definitely north-south polishing lines that look much more traditional as well. The top picture captures those a bit better than the trueviews.

Coop, I hear you that they look like scratches, especially due to the chaotic nature of them. I am certain though that they are raised, and the straight PCGS grade further confirms it for me.

The larger line in the field just to the bottom right of the mint mark is very interesting. It seems to be a continuation of "scratch" marks coming from the device. I wonder why there is a gap between it and the device though.
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 Posted 06/12/2022  5:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nick10 to your friends list
a foreign object, like the edge of a chisel or screwdriver tip, might have run across the fields and recesses of die, but only the flat fields were accessible to have the resulting scratches polished away
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 Posted 06/13/2022  12:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yokozuna to your friends list
Wow.
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 Posted 06/13/2022  12:40 am  Show Profile   Check Zurie's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list
Almost looks like a defaced die. Hard to imagine those die scratches getting there unless it was deliberate.
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 Posted 06/13/2022  01:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jacrispies to your friends list
Wow, that is super ugly and super cool! Looks like a mint employee didn't get the promotion he was expecting. Thanks for sharing!
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 Posted 06/13/2022  01:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHI to your friends list
Thats the craziest MS 65 ever, ha!

I like the "disgruntled mint worker" theory.
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 Posted 06/13/2022  08:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dowhat to your friends list
Appears to have PIDT to me. Maybe just the lighting?
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 Posted 06/13/2022  2:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
Reminds me of a coin that was polished to remove tarnish. Like a paste silver cleaner. These lines are way too small to be from an instrument, but like coin rub to remove a slight coating.
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Very fine scratches from rubbing on a coin.
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 Posted 06/13/2022  5:51 pm  Show Profile   Check Zurie's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list
It's pretty clear from the PCGS images that the OP's coin has raised lines from die scratches, not cleaning hairlines.
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