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Wow that cheek is ugly. I say MS-63 lacking eye appeal.
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Looks like she got in a fight. MS-63
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KauaiHawaiiGuy...you are a bad boy trying to fool CCF members. this coins was taken from the PCGS grading scale. its the MS63 example...so I'm going to say MS63  |
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Panzaldi said ...... Quote:
KauaiHawaiiGuy...you are a bad boy trying to fool CCF members. this coins was taken from the PCGS grading scale. its the MS63 example...so I'm going to say MS63 And he's right as to where the coin came from, but not that I was trying to fool anybody, only that the other day I asked a question at the main coin forum about "Rub vs Wear", the post is still there near the top if anyone cares to look, and to me that cheek in the PCGS example looks like what I would think of as rub from a roll of Morgans or cabinet rub, and wanted to see how the other members saw it. Well I am surprised that you were all about right, and even though some of you mentioned the cheek, none of you downgraded it to AU status. I have even more respect for the forum members after this little stunt I pulled than before. Thanks for your input |
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It's definitely not an AU coin. The only rubbing is from coin to coin in bags.
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But IndianGoldEagle, when you said ........ Quote:
It's definitely not an AU coin. The only rubbing is from coin to coin in bags. That is exactly the point I raised at that post I mentioned at the main coin forum. If rub is not considered wear, and the rub as in this coin is exactly at the same high points on a Morgan that wear occurs at, e.g. hair above ear, high point of cheek, above and below eye etc., then what's the difference? Is it only a judgement call like an ice skating judge where one sees the performance as a 9.5 and another a 9.7? |
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I interpret rub and wear as the same thing.
This coin has neither.
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Typically in a lightly circulated coin you would see overall loss of luster and some circulation marks in the fields, in addition to the slight wear or rub on the high points. But there is no hard line between MS and AU since it really is a continuum, so in the end it has to be a judgement call on where to draw the line.
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I should have said instead of coin to coin "rub", coin to coin contact. This one looks like it was horizontal coin to coin slide causing the friction marks.
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It looks like the planchet had roller marks showing up on the cheek. I was at MS63 with a shot at MS64.
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solid 63 for me
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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