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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Quote: Mixed thoughts, but I lean towards #2 due the the stronger strike. Maybe #2 was "cleaned" in the past, but obviously it straight graded. I'm not happy about the hits under the chin in the field and on the neck, but apparently that helped limit the grade to XF45. Exactly my thoughts.
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Moderator
 United States
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What causes the 'lump' on coin 1 reverse, between the I and C of AMERICA? It apparently is not considered damage if the coin straight graded.
I prefer the surfaces on coin 2 although the obverse hits already noted are quite distracting in their prominent placement.
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Valued Member
United States
277 Posts |
Gorgeous coins both nonetheless!
Would dollars like these be found circulating all throughout the 16 states that made up the US back in 1796 or primarily in business/city centers and ports?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4680 Posts |
I prefer the strike of coin #2, but the surface preservation of coin #1. Number of obverse hits and scratches on coin #2 in main focal points that are distracting for me.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I lean toward #1, but both are just gorgeous.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4469 Posts |
Quote: What causes the 'lump' on coin 1 reverse, between the I and C of AMERICA? It apparently is not considered damage if the coin straight graded. The lump was most likely caused by a deteriorating die where a piece of the die fell out. The lump size changes on different examples depending on the die state. The OP example is in the later die state with the largest lump size.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
6589 Posts |
I would lean towards coin #1
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
5396 Posts |
#2 more in the grade coin .
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
735 Posts |
Both coins are very nice but I am leaning more towards #2
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Valued Member
United States
417 Posts |
I prefer #2, I like coins with that darker on the outside, lighter on the inside look. #1 is overall too dark for my liking, just IMHO.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
6392 Posts |
Both beautiful, valuable coins, much better than my type example which grades VF35. IMO the sharper strike and stronger detail on #2 more than compensate for the contact marks. I like the color a little more, too.
Hey, I'd trade my 1797 10X6 Stars PCGS35 example for either!
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
557 Posts |
Both nice coins, but the lump bothers me. However, if they both graded straight then I pick #1.
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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If grade is the same, it comes down to eye appeal. You would need to personally inspect both, if that is possible.
If not, best to go with the majority opinion of this thread. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Start a score sheet, and add your opinion to one side or the other. Your vote is the veto vote.
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New Member
United States
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I really like the overall look of #2, #1 (from those photos) just looks messed with. #2 has a premium look to it and the reverse in particular is clean and meaty (which is what you want in any small eagle coin). However, while the hits on #2 don't bother me the "X" scratched behind the head does. Intentional or not it would draw my eye every time I looked at the coin.
Edited by fluffy155 11/07/2022 6:00 pm
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Valued Member
United States
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Number 1 hands down for me. The darker originality is gorgeous. The one notable scratch on the right obverse field looks like it toned over a LOOONG time ago. The die break on IC is an attractor to me. (In my area of interest, capped bust Half Dimes, the " Cud coins" which includes internal die breaks like that one command a huge premium and get snapped up.) Regarding number 2, the graffiti on the obverse as already mentioned, and the general cleaniness of the coin, would always make me unhappy. Having said that: I don't know about the die pairs / varieties in dollar coins. But in the Half Dimes, if I put two coins side by side and they were both pretty - but one was an R1 rarity and the other was an R6 - I'd be heavily biased toward the R6! You're looking at $8,000 coins there, so I'm going to assume you're already way ahead of me on the die pairs. But it does look like the one with the " Cud" on IC is B5 or BB-65. Not sure of a good resource to identify the other. https://www.PCGS.com/coinfacts/coin...-sm-lt/40002
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