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That actually had a ton if really good info.. I don't know how other ppl see it. But I like hearing that stuff. But way to often.im real life and on forums you don't get an answer like that. Or a to each their own. You learned the history. There's a reason you like it and you have standards for what you like. But there's a ton of ppl that have to add in just snotty comments. Or just be jerks in general. No helpful info. Just a opinionated snarky comment that could have been left unsaid
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Kind of a bit like your cubic zirconium reference. If someone's wearing one because they like it, I'm not just gonna go out of my way to point out it's a POS and worthless... There's a pretty thick line between saying that type doesn't cost a lot, and what a piece of junk. Why would anyone like that.
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@ker, I can assure you as a moderator here, that I spend a good amount of my time ensuring that this remains a family-friendly environment for numismatic discussion. Please click on the "report this to the staff " link if you find someone going over the line.
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
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"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
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strictly speaking, when a coin differs from its proof version, it is an error, but collectors generally reserve the error word for the uncommon types that the mint probably did not intend to release into circulation take Die Deterioration Doubling, yes, it makes a coin look different from its proof version, but given the number of coins that exhibit it, we must conclude such doubling is acceptable to the mint, and if the mint thinks it's OK, it's not really an error |
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Generally speaking: an error is one of a kind and a variety is many with the same issue. John1 
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@Earle42: Quote:
All legit No FG 1982s also have a different OBV die where the 1 in the date is missing the base Now that is a bit of information I have never heard before. (good information). I had to go back and re-look at my 'no FG '82. and found that there is no base on the 1 on the date. just incredible information.. |
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Never never never ever clean your coins, period.  |
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counter point - sometimes conservation is necessary for the long term preservation of a coin. a cleaned coin will never be worth as much as a similarly worn piece with natural surfaces but its just inaccurate to say there aren't coins that could benefit from conservation. we advise against cleaning because we dont want novices damaging coins with improper technique not because it should never be done. see my post here for a coin that will absolutely benefit from cleaning: http://goccf.com/t/435186@ kerrykz - people are telling you whats worth money today not what to collect or do. you can and should do whatever makes you happy in coins. its a hobby. have fun! I dont know when everyone started thinking their hobbies should be profitable. its an unhealthy mentality as far as I'm concerned. hobbies are where you spend the money you make at work. if you like machine doubled coins then collect them. nobody is going to pay you for them today but who cares. you are having fun. build an excellent collection. be excited about them and share them. maybe even publish a book on the subject. whose to say they cant become the next thing everyone is clamoring over. what is desirable changes. high grade coins with rainbow toning are hot right now. a generation ago it was key dates and rare varieties. a generation before that it was mint rolls. nothing stays hot forever. its all beanie babies. its all nonsense and it all for fun. |
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IMHO, I'm glad you mentioned this to discuss it. I had the same feeling at times when getting back into collecting. But as time has gone on I realized a big part of the sensitivity on my part was simply the "quickness" of the internet [which is why some (most?  ) of my replies are long-winded]. My thirst for knowledge made me ask more detailed questions when the answers fell short of my level of understanding. And remember that online posts are hard to add nuance to sometimes. Nothing negative may have been intended, but sometimes in our haste to reply it may come off as cold. In regards to the CZ, they simply aren't as valuable as natural diamonds. His comment addressed the $ value of CZ compared to natural stones and I didn't see it as a dig toward anyone who owns a CZ. Human curiosity really is a wonderful thing. People collect what they like, especially if they find it personally. Most of us here have probably set aside an extreme example of MD we've come across, even if we wouldn't pay money for it. Words of encouragement are one of the major food groups.
We need to consume them regularly to thrive and grow.
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12/14/2022 07:51 am
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What about lab grown diamonds?   John1 |
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Carrs... Yesss exactly. And I don't have anything for or against cz.. it was just an awesome example. Ppl like what they like. However john1. Lab Grown. Omg now thats a step too far. & |
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But there's a ton of ppl that have to add in just snotty comments. Or just be jerks in general. No helpful info. Just a opinionated snarky comment that could have been left unsaid Sometimes I think THEY think they're being witty. LOL. But yeah, sometimes on the receiving end, the joke kind of stings more than it should when you're just trying to learn. |
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Earle42, that was a prime post and it's now in my bookmarks! Thanks for taking the time to say all that!
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Generally speaking: an error is one of a kind and a variety is many with the same issue.
John1 Well, dang, that makes sense! I hadn't made the distinction before. LOL. |
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I'm one of the people that have never accepted the 3 legger or the 22 no D.
That's just me though, the numismatic world does so like they've said, to each his own.
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