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Nero At Eighteen, And Ten Years On

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 Posted 03/07/2023  04:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Palouche to your friends list
Really nice looking coin Jim!
Looks like Rome had its own version of McDonald's!..Neat comparison of the portraits..I actually find the reverse depiction of Eirene most appealing with lovely detail!

I have Keith Emmett's reference book on Alexandrian coinage and thought I'd take a look..Here's the Emmett number to add to your references..Emmett#119

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 Posted 03/07/2023  08:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
An interesting comparison, and well worth posting here, in the CCF.
Thanks for the aging info, based on research evidence.
I suspect that Nero didn't know much about dieting. His attitude in this regard was probably more like that of Vitellius.
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 Posted 03/07/2023  1:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrsmat71 to your friends list
The Emperor reminds me of the King.

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Man, it stinks getting old.
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 Posted 03/07/2023  5:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Palouche to your friends list
I hear you Chris...
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 Posted 03/07/2023  6:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Novicius to your friends list
Thanks, Bob, @Coinfrog and @sel_69l.

Thanks, Paul. Any additional information is always welcome, and thanks for taking the time and trouble to photograph and post the Emmett pages.

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I suspect that Nero didn't know much about dieting. His attitude in this regard was probably more like that of Vitellius.



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The Emperor reminds me of the King. Man, it stinks getting old.

I hear you too, @chrsmat71. It isn't much fun.
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 Posted 03/07/2023  6:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ttkoo to your friends list
Very nice coins - a great comparison, and I know the feeling. I bumped into a friend last year that I hadn't seen since the 90's. He asked how long it was since we last met and I said "about 25 years or so", and he replied quite dryly "looks like you spent the time eating"



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The Emperor reminds me of the King. Man, it stinks getting old.


amen to that
The Ox moves slowly, but the Earth is patient.
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 Posted 03/08/2023  12:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
Poor old Elvis had a prescription drug problem as well, and that is what killed him.

Like most upper class Roman patricians, Nero's body had to deal with a lead poisioning problem from lead piping. Probably helps to explain the cruel irrational attitude of some other notable Roman Emperors.

Nero didn't stink, (at least from aging problems), - he was only 31 years old when he died.
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 Posted 03/08/2023  11:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add circusmax120 to your friends list
Really nice portrait comparison, Jim. I love this kind of thing. Also interesting to see Nero compared to Elvis. It would seem the Emperor was seen by the people of Rome in a similar light. He certainly thought himself to be artistically (and athletically) gifted and beloved by the public. Kings will be Kings!
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 Posted 03/09/2023  8:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Novicius to your friends list
Thanks, @ttkoo. I'm afraid that if I had a friend like that, he would no longer be on my Christmas card list!

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Like most upper class Roman patricians, Nero's body had to deal with a lead poisoning problem from lead piping. Probably helps to explain the cruel irrational attitude of some other notable Roman Emperors.

A good point, @sel_69l. One tends to forget that they had more to contend with than first meets the eye.

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Also interesting to see Nero compared to Elvis.

Indeed, Mike. The comparison did make me smile.
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 Posted 03/10/2023  09:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add circusmax120 to your friends list
Elvis may have had a badge making him an honorary FBI agent...but Nero...well...he was multi-gold-medal Olympian. Imagine that!
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 Posted 04/05/2023  4:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add circusmax120 to your friends list
This is my only Nero. An AE as. Certainly not a youth...so probably more comparable to the Elvis of the late-1970's. One too many peanut butter and banana sandwiches!
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Nero as "Genius of the Romans". Naturally! Obverse: the Emperor facing left, IMP NERO CAESAR AVG P MAX TR P PP; small globe at the point of his neck. Reverse: Genius standing left, right hand holding a patera over a flaming altar, while holding a cornucopia in the left. GENIO AVGUVSTI, SC in field. 29mm, 10.54 grams.
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 Posted 04/05/2023  7:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Novicius to your friends list
Another strong portrait, Mike, with the sterner countenance that we normally associate with Nero.

The eye and the brow convey so much - another mini masterpiece from the engraver.
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 Posted 04/06/2023  12:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add circusmax120 to your friends list
So very right, Jim. There is much to appreciate in this specimen. Aside from the realism expressed in the portrait, I also enjoy the mottled patina, and favor the GENIO reverse motif. So appropriate for this "artiste" of an emperor! Nero and Elvis would be fast friends.
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 Posted 04/06/2023  2:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add erafjel to your friends list
I feel I have to share my Nero sestertius. Minted in Lyon 62-68 (RIC I 442). I like the portrait, even though Nero does not look completely healthy.

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 Posted 04/06/2023  2:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add circusmax120 to your friends list
Oh! Look at that! *face-wash* Beauuutiful specimen, erafjel. Looks as large and weighty as Nero's ego! Very clearly the artist leaned in the direction of caricature for this portrait of the emperor. Really accentuating the largeness of his head in relation to his other features. Making a sly commentary perhaps? I mean, how does one say "The emperor has a big head"...without losing your own?
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