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An 1807 Draped Bust Half With Some Interesting History Attached To It

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 Posted 04/11/2023  2:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kbbpll to your friends list
You don't see too many people named Nehemiah and Jabez these days. Perhaps when drilling the hole from the reverse they wanted to miss the date and failed? Interesting theory about the watch fob. If 1807 was significant, seems like the coin would have been new when it was counterstamped, so perhaps the wear and scratches were from putting it in and out of the vest pocket.
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 Posted 04/11/2023  2:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Phil310 to your friends list

Thanks for another great coin story! If I end up with a collection of counter stamped coins some day, it will be your fault.
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 Posted 04/11/2023  2:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Good read, thanks!
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 Posted 04/11/2023  3:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AcesKings to your friends list

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Speaking of learning, can one of you Bustie lovers please tell me the Overton variety?


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 Posted 04/11/2023  4:58 pm  Show Profile   Check nss-52's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add nss-52 to your friends list
How do we know this didn't belong to Noah Dodge, or Nancy Dodge?
LOL, did it come with some sort of provenance?
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 Posted 04/11/2023  7:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list
Thanks for sharing - great coin and history!
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 Posted 04/11/2023  7:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ironhorse to your friends list
You always have the best stories attached to the coins in your collection. This one is no different, great history!
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 Posted 04/12/2023  12:42 am  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list
Really enjoyed your write up. Very neat piece.
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 Posted 04/12/2023  05:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsearcher to your friends list
Nice piece, thanks for the story.
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 Posted 04/12/2023  12:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ExoGuy to your friends list
Thanks for the great feedback and encouraging words!


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If I end up with a collection of counter stamped coins some day, it will be your fault.


Fault? .... To my credit would be more likely!



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How do we know this didn't belong to Noah Dodge, or Nancy Dodge?
LOL, did it come with some sort of provenance?


I was hoping someone would ask this important question!

All too often, many counterstamps have been misattributed. Wishful thinking and faulty research by many contributors caused authors Brunk and Rulau to recant and amend many of their counterstamp listings. Auction houses, TPG'ers and ebay sellers often misattribute counterstamps, as well.

The counterstamps of silversmiths, gunsmiths, cutlers, toolmakers, photographers and a host of other professions can be most assuredly attributed by matching the coin stamp to that on one of their products.

One of my most often utilized resources for silversmiths, jewelers and watchmakers is the American Silversmiths website. Here's a link to their posting on Nehemiah Dodge. Note that the known stamp for Nehemiah matches that on the coin: https://www.americansilversmiths.or...s/158349.htm
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Very interesting, thanks for sharing!
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Huh, there was also a Seril Dodge silversmith, 15 years younger than Nehemiah. His mark is very similar. Both advertised in Providence Gazette. I wonder what the connection was. I don't see a relationship on findagrave.
https://freepages.rootsweb.com/~sil...hs/58070.htm
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It appears Seril was a half-brother to Nehemiah. Their father's (also named Nehemiah) first wife died, and his second wife bore two children, one of whom was Seril. When researching counterstamps, I very often run into conflicting, confusing and incorrect data. So, I consult multiple sources whenever possible. That said, I rarely look into family history and try to stay focused on the stamp and the issuer,
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 Posted 04/13/2023  10:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Phil310 to your friends list
Exoguy, have you ever found an actual punch used in the counterstamping of one of your older coins? I bet those would be tough to find if they still exist.
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Exoguy, have you ever found an actual punch used in the counterstamping of one of your older coins?


No, I've not. The only surviving early punch I've ever seen is a VOTE THE LAND FREE punch, circa 1844, that's in the possession of the Kansas Historical Society. To my knowledge, none of the c/s authors and serious collectors have ever reported seeing same, either; this, other than the Kansas item.
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