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1949 Jefferson Nickel With Giant 4

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 Posted 07/24/2023  6:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list
Well the first 9 looks normal, the 4 is fat, and the second 9 is not as fat. It is possible that the 4 and last 9 took a hit and the hit was uneven and smashed the 4 a little bit more.
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 Posted 07/24/2023  6:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nick10 to your friends list
that 4 might look less fat without grime around it, but will still likely be oversized
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 Posted 07/24/2023  7:50 pm  Show Profile   Check Brandmeister's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Brandmeister to your friends list
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PCGS CoinFacts vs. this coin. Although getting it precisely to scale is the skill of others on this forum.
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that 4 might look less fat without grime around it, but will still likely be oversized

I agree. I will plunk it into the acetone jar when I take the dog for a walk.
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 Posted 07/24/2023  8:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Good grief. You think there was a "Large 4" variety to start with, is that right?
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hmm, the last 9 also looks fatter than the PCGS example, let's see what acetone''s gunk removal does
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Good grief. You think there was a "Large 4" variety to start with, is that right?

No, frog, I do not. All I have is a nickel with an unusually large 4, and I am curious to know if there is a reasonable conclusion we can reach about it.
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Soaked in acetone, scrubbed with a Q-tip.
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 Posted 07/24/2023  9:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list
The 4 was flattened by a hit - look at how small the internal triangle of the 4 is compared to the regular one you posted a picture of. Look at the base of the flattened 4 and compare to the normal one. Also see how the last 9 in the date also has a flattened tail on it. This is PMD. It took a hit in that area.
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 Posted 07/24/2023  9:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shathe to your friends list
very nice pics brandmeister. the comparison pic really shows that the 4 AND the second 9 are fatter, i.e., smooshed.
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smooshed

I was wondering what the technical term was for that.
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I was wondering what the technical term was for that.


very useful technical term. I use it all the time, especially when I take my bananas out of the bag after I get home from the store...
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All I have is a nickel with an unusually large 4, and I am curious to know if there is a reasonable conclusion we can reach about it

I said it up above and I'll say it again, the first 9 looks normal, the 4 is fat, and the second 9 fatter than the first, but not as fat as the 4. This tells me that the 4 and 9 took a hit and flattened them out - more so in the 4 then the second 9.
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since hits happen routinely and can squash devices, I have to agree that's the most likely cause of the fat 4 and 9, other evidence of the hit could have been smoothed away by subsequent circulation
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I think that smooshed, and then smoothed by circulation is the most sensible theory. Thanks for the ideas, guys.

The little window and thick stem on the 4 were interesting, though. That same phenomenon was also visible on 1949 5c WDDO-001. But the Class V pivot hub double was clearly visible on all four digits of 1949. That just doesn't line up with this particular nickel. A theory worth considering, even though we have ultimately discarded it.
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