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Valued Member
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I know you said it appears to have doubling, but I just don't see it. It sure is messed up. When all have chimed in, would you please give us the answer to what we're seeing here. Thanks
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2 coins, one hydraulic press
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Bedrock of the Community
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Will do, A1agrl. But I never said there was doubling.
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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Bedrock of the Community
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Quote: Dearborn said: 2 coins, one hydraulic press The closest answer so far. And it explains all of the observable phenomena.
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
Edited by HondoB 07/30/2023 5:22 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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Why this is not a double-struck coinFirst, notice that there is no impression in the protruding area:  Second, if this was a double-struck coin, the demarcation line would be as worn as the obverse Lincoln, yet it is not. Third, examination of the protruding area shows mirror imaging of partial "PLURIBUS" and ONE. The reverse N is the easiest to identify.  The answer, as best as I can tell: someone placed a worn Lincoln Wheat cent on top of a worn 1918 LWC and struck it with a hammer. The reverse certainly bears testament to this being post-strike damage.  There may be other things going on with the reverse - the things that look like die chips did not come off with gentle thumbnail pressure, so they may just be further inexplicable damage. Does my hypothesis pass the test?
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
Edited by HondoB 07/30/2023 7:35 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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If it was only struck with a hammer (qnd not something more industrial) how do we explain the flatness of the design on both surfaces, without increasing the diameter.
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Bedrock of the Community
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The two coins were slightly overlapping then bashed with a hand maul on an anvil. The original cent was worn to begin with, as was the overlapping one.
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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Valued Member
United States
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Hondo, I enjoyed this thread but I have a follow up question. Can one tell the difference between using a hand maul on an anvil vs a vertical press to impress the second coin on the worn coin?
Edited by surfacewave 07/31/2023 9:10 pm
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Moderator
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good question. I like my press theory, as it has more control to smash the devices evenly flat, but this was not my experiment - Hondo, did you produce this 'coin'?
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Bedrock of the Community
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Surfacewave and Dearborn, how this coin was destroyed is lost in the mists of time. It could have been either a press or a maul. And no, I didn't do it - it was in a batch of coins labelled "tokens, errors, and blank planchets". Unfortunately, all of those planchets were blank because the coins were slicks. No errors. And the tokens were junk. At least it was only a $6 lesson, and I've gotten my moneys worth with this thread.
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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Thanks Hondo - in either case - I do like this coin. nice purchase and teaching tool. (I had a good idea on this one from the beginning, but held back til the end..) 
Edited by Dearborn 07/31/2023 11:09 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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Dearborn, if you want it, I'll send it to you free of charge. Actually, if anyone wants this for their teaching collection etc. just let me know. I'm not attached to it at all.
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
Edited by HondoB 08/01/2023 4:14 pm
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Moderator
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Thanks for the offer, but I'll pass on this gift. Let one of the new folks have it if they want.. 
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New Member
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Looks like someone tried to solder two coins together! Part s/b blank altogether, with full stamp of coin attempt on the other 1/2?
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Quote: Looks like someone tried to solder two coins together! Part s/b blank altogether, with full stamp of coin attempt on the other 1/2? umm, NOPE, did you read the final responses? There is Zero evidence of solder here.
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