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1901 Penny - I Can't Figure Out Why This Is Like This?

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 Posted 08/01/2023  4:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add HondoB to your friends list
First, can you tell us the weight?
Also, check the edge for a seam as it may have been a cast counterfeit.
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 Posted 08/01/2023  4:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cicirieer to your friends list
Thanks Coinfrog! Seriously though. I just can't figure this out unless it was for selling as a strange fake gift shop coin? I couldn't find anything via Google about this being a thing for that coin.
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 Posted 08/01/2023  4:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list
An accurate weight to two decimal places might be interesting to determine.
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 Posted 08/01/2023  4:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cicirieer to your friends list
Ok. Gonna go dig out scale and check. Been packed away a while so hoping they still work.
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 Posted 08/01/2023  4:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cicirieer to your friends list
Ok I can't find scales right now. But mentioning the seam I took these pics to see if it helps give an answer.
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 Posted 08/01/2023  6:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list
Never use metal to hold coins with.
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 Posted 08/01/2023  9:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list
oh OUCH! metal tongs? - huge no-no if you please.
But I'll go along with possible plating or coating of paint a very long time ago.
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 Posted 08/01/2023  9:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nfine to your friends list
The shoulder on the rim could indicate it was mounted, perhaps glued, in some sort of jewelry item.
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 Posted 08/02/2023  01:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list
Definitely was damaged in some way. PMD.
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 Posted 08/02/2023  07:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list
Is nobody else seeing a casting seam? Because I'm seeing a casting seam.

Which leads to the next question: who would want or need to make a uniface cast copy of an 1901 Indian Head cent?

The fact that zero effort has gone into copying the obverse, indicates to me it was not intended as either a circulating or numismatic counterfeit.

My best guess, based on the stippled surface of the obverse, is that it was made for gluing or inserting into some other object, like a book cover or piece of furniture.
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 Posted 08/02/2023  7:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list
Good point Sap! Maybe it was made to be placed into a leather belt or the buckle.
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 Posted 08/04/2023  10:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ExoGuy to your friends list
My guess is that this was once an Encased Cent and later removed from the aluminum casing. A great many 1901 cents were encased that year; this, to be sold as mementoes at the Pan-American Exposition in Buffalo. It may well have been plated, too.
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 Posted 08/04/2023  10:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add HondoB to your friends list
Previously Encased Coins have distinctive marks around the rim on obverse and reverse which this one does not exhibit. Until further evidence is provided, I'm voting for cast counterfeit.
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 Posted 08/07/2023  2:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ExoGuy to your friends list
Good point, Hondo. If cast, it may have been plated as a jewelry item. a cuff link insert, perhaps?
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