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Vicksburg Shreveport And Texas $3 With Inverted Train

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 Posted 09/21/2023  12:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SteveInTampa to your friends list
Like many things during the Civil War, paper was a commodity that was in short supply. Many Obsolete notes were printed on the back of bonds and notes that were not issued. The inverted side is pretty cool.
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 Posted 09/21/2023  01:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add HondoB to your friends list
Hmmmmm. An "Inverted Trainy".
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 Posted 09/21/2023  07:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list
What area of notes does this note fall into. Is it a banknote or something else?
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 Posted 09/21/2023  08:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Blastenpene4 to your friends list
Not a banknote, but I suppose a promissory note if some kind. I have others from 1840 that were issued by canal companies. I have several other railroad company notes from the Civil War era.
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 Posted 09/22/2023  6:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list
Notes like this fall in the category of "scrip" or "chits" in my opinion. Not "official" money but could have been redeemed for "real money" by the bearer at the issuing agency if submitted in the proper amounts.
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 Posted 09/23/2023  05:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsearcher to your friends list
Interesting note for sure.
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 Posted 02/24/2024  7:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ynnad to your friends list
I noticed the obligation on this instrument states, "THE ... Company WILL PAY TO THE BEARER THREE DOLLARS In the circulating medium of Louisiana when presented in sums OF FIVE DOLLARS." How was that supposed to work? Did the bearer have to present at least fifteen dollars?
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 Posted 02/24/2024  7:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list

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How was that supposed to work?


To redeem for $ the redemption amount minimum was $5 worth of like script. You would usually do this at a station ticketing office.

"Redeemable for all dues" means that the note was always redeemable for its face value towards rail travel, fees, shipping charges and purchases from the issuer.
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 Posted 02/24/2024  8:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikev50 to your friends list
found one at denleys of boston---selling for 135$---obsolete note---could not tell if it was an inverted train---https://www.denlys.com/inventory/viewimage.asp?ID=OB24683
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 Posted 02/24/2024  9:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ynnad to your friends list

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To redeem for $ the redemption amount minimum was $5 worth of like script.


That sounds like a reasonable interpretation but it says "in sums of five dollars" and not "in sums of at least five dollars" or something similar. If I presented two three-dollar notes, could the railroad company theoretically respond with, "That is not a sum of five dollars and we will not pay." Did the railroad company issue one dollar and/or two dollar notes?

I have seen similar restrictions on other scrip and I sometimes wonder if it was some sort of scheme to avoid redemption.
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 Posted 02/24/2024  11:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list
The one Denly has does not appear to have an inverted overprint.

Most of this type of scrip was issued in denominations of 1, 2 and 3$ denominations.

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 Posted 02/25/2024  04:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GregAlex to your friends list
Heritage has sold a handful of these $3 notes over the years and I found three with inverted locomotives like your. Not one was identified as an invert. I didn't dig too deep, but the VS&T RR also issued other denominations with green tints. It would be interesting to see if any of those have inverts.
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could not tell if it was an inverted train

Not inverted
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 Posted 02/25/2024  09:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Blastenpene4 to your friends list
Thanks for the updates, all. This note is probably not particularly valuable, but it's interesting. My grandfather gave me about 20 Confederate and Civil War era notes about 50 years ago. The only one I've considered TPG on is a very nice Confederate $50 with Jefferson Davis, but it's probably not worth the expense.
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