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1806 Bust Half For Grading

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 Posted 10/25/2023  2:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DOCC to your friends list
Yes, pointed with stem. I've matched to O-116 https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin...6-stem/39319

Shield lines are not an anomaly. If you look at all graded coins - even the 8's and 10's - they all have well-defined lines. Area must be a slightly concave, can't visually tell tho.
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 Posted 10/25/2023  2:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wideglide to your friends list

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Yes, pointed with stem. I've matched to O-116 https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin...6-stem/39319


Yep the certainly looks like it, same doubled letters, etc. Definitely an interesting piece!
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 Posted 10/25/2023  5:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list
Strike weakness, not uncommon

VG10 straight grade
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 Posted 10/25/2023  9:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list
I'll go with VG.
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 Posted 10/26/2023  07:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list

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Would you pay mid-VF money for it?


No, just pointing out their inconsistencies with grading the series and that I've learned to drop the grade on these 2 grade levels and even 3 with a coin that looks like this. discerning wear from strike when you have something like this can be a headache
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 Posted 10/26/2023  08:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DOCC to your friends list
Thx all. Was contemplating having it graded however it would only make $ sense if concensus grade was F12 or higher. Sounds like VG is most likely so I'll just capsule raw.
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 Posted 10/27/2023  3:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add psuman08 to your friends list
I 'd say VG cleaned. I do agree with panzaldi that TPGs are no better than us at these.
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 Posted 10/28/2023  03:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jacrispies to your friends list
Fine 12 or 15, I would personally go with 12 as a net for the cleaning.
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 Posted 10/29/2023  11:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fenton to your friends list
Tough one because it is extremely flat strike meaning the lack of detail in the middle is mostly strike not wear. I'll say VF-20.
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 Posted 10/29/2023  12:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DOCC to your friends list
While I do lean towards this being cleaned at some point in its past, no one has called it a DETAILS coin.

I do realize this is a tough one to grade.
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While I do lean towards this being cleaned at some point in its past, no one has called it a DETAILS coin.


i think they are little more lenient with earlier pieces on the designation especially if its not harsh. a lot of times they will net the grade and put it in a straight holder. I think its acceptable and would grade straight
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 Posted 10/30/2023  8:30 pm  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list
Just a killer coin, love it !
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 Posted 10/31/2023  12:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gmwatson to your friends list
Interesting coin. A lot going on with that little package. As previously commented on, what is going on with the date?
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 Posted 10/31/2023  01:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DOCC to your friends list

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what is going on with the date?


Minted in Q6 :-)

Just a massive die break - assume a bit of shatter/flaking around the numbers. If you trace the break, you can see it return on the last 2 stars clockwise and thru LIBE.

Common amongst all O-116s - https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin...6-stem/39319

Some more promounced than others.
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 Posted 11/04/2023  1:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list
An older cleaning so it might get a pass. Can't see this one above VG-10.
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