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1858 Half Dollar For Thoughts

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 Posted 12/06/2023  12:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JasonKflo to your friends list
It's clashed in the shield. This coin is clashed all over the place .
You can see part of the 8 of the date under the e of states even.
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 Posted 12/06/2023  01:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jacrispies to your friends list
Man this is the crispiest, crunchiest, most crusty coin! Choice AU-58.
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 Posted 12/06/2023  06:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jaobler to your friends list
Essentially no wear but lack of luster indicates it's seen a bit of circulation.
The uniform gray color might be from retoning after an old dip; if so the result is very attractive and there is no sign of abrasive cleaning.
NGC AU-58 seems possible.
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 Posted 12/06/2023  06:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echidna to your friends list
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 Posted 12/06/2023  09:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list
A nice unmolested AU-58.
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 Posted 12/06/2023  09:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
I'll buck the crowd and say MS-62.
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 Posted 12/06/2023  12:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fayette1800 to your friends list
I think it has some wear, AU58. Beautiful.
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 Posted 12/06/2023  1:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ericgreen to your friends list
Beautiful coin! Excited to see what NGC called it. I lean towards the AU-58 camp
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 Posted 12/06/2023  4:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list
AU58
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 Posted 12/07/2023  08:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JasonKflo to your friends list
This one is AU-58
I should have it back Saturday
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 Posted 12/07/2023  09:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list
Nice coin, congrats!
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 Posted 12/07/2023  09:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Nice call everyone but me!
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I should have it back Saturday


why? did you expect the coin to be MS? what makes the coin different than when you purchased it as the photos are pretty good to show what the actual coin looks like?
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 Posted 12/07/2023  10:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list

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It's clashed in the shield.


Die clashing happens when two dies strike one another without a planchet in between. The fields are the highest point on the dies (the reverse of what you find on coins) and the edges of the carved-in design make an impression, usually on the surface of the other die's fields. That makes sense in the raised line we see under STATES OF in the reverse.

But it doesn't seem like two dies clashing together would affect the eagle's shield which is fairly high in the reverse design on the coin and therefore, fairly deep inside the scooped out reverse design in the die. What may make more sense is if there was some debris, harder than silver, that was sandwiched between the die and the planchet that damaged the reverse die's scooped out design in the area of the shield. The globs on the shield (one larger and one smaller) seem raised which would be consistent with debris earlier having pushed into the design of the shield in the reverse die damaging it.
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 Posted 12/07/2023  2:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JasonKflo to your friends list
I actually thought it would come back AU-55 due to the luster
The detail of the coin itself in hand could be either AU-58 or MS-61/62 if I recall correctly

Yes the shield could be debris
I didn't really notice it till after I sent it and was looking at a photo. I had thought it was libertys legs but I am unsure. I'll look good when it's here.
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